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uh please welcome mr jonathan davis

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who's traveled down from newport this

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evening to leave us

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there we go okay it was close

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um

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no you've probably not met him before

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but for those of you who are face twit

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fans

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i will no doubt you'll see many

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interesting posts that he's put up on

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the simphone site over the last sort of

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couple of months

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now jonathan used to reside in the

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landmark area of gower

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and it's an incident that occurred over

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that area back in 2010 and he's going to

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talk to you about tonight

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uh i believe one of our members steve

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griffiths who actually we haven't seen

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for quite some time uh he interviewed

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jonathan about the incident but tonight

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john is going to tell you in detail

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about it firsthand

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he's also had a number of other

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sightings and is another witness to our

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famous knight of the triangles incident

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back in 1983

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um and he actually had missing time

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scenario at that time as

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well um now it's been quite some time

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since we had a monthly meeting actually

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devoted to the main topic of our group's

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interest which is ufos

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so i'm sure you're all going to enjoy

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tonight's presentation

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anyway i believe this is his first talk

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with a live audience although he's in

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lots of other things

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so please give a very warm welcome

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thanks steve

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good evening everyone um it is my first

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presentation so bear with me guys

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be nice

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um

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i'm involved in the ufo scene i've been

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an experiencer all my life literally

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since i was a child

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um i can't remember when it started i

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would be um

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i would see things in the fields as i

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was wandering around fields like orbs a

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small tent sized ball

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size orbs different colors reds orange

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i would wander around and they'd be

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about 100 meters away from me

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um

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they never interacted with me really

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um i would just see them my friends

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wouldn't see them and it used to cause

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me a bit of an issue when i was a child

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and i tried to tell my friends what i

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was seeing and um

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you know and i used to get the mick

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telling me taking them basically i

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stopped talking about it i didn't tell

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my family about it

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um

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it was a big issue for me

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so i didn't really get involved in this

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topic at all

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um

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but i was seeing things you know i would

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i'd be in bed and i'd i'd wake and my

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mouth would be wide open and i couldn't

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move and

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i'd be floating up to the ceiling

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and then i'd black out and i'd wake

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and i'd find myself in a room and i'd

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have eyes all around me

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like large black bull like eyes just

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again no messages no downloads nothing

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like that just um

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an ongoing

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interference in my life

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you know this is which is all going on

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a bit of a um i stayed away from

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everyone i supposed to go out into the

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fields i'd be on my own because i

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couldn't you know nobody else would see

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these things i would see these things

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and i didn't know what they were

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i didn't think they were ufos i was too

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young at that time i didn't know what it

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was you know i didn't

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and even now are there ufos orbs i don't

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answers that some people might ask me

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later if i got the answers i haven't got

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answers

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i just see these things and i don't

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really know why i see these things and

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i've always seen it since

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and an incident that happened when i was

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13 i was out again on my own when i used

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to go into the woods these things would

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be white when they'd be out in the field

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these orange orbs about the

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sort of white oaks would be

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outside of the tennis ball and they

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would follow me into the woods and they

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go into the woods and they change color

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to red they always change color red i

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have absolutely no idea right but they

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used to but it was it was quite a nice

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thing for me because i'd be on my own

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but i always knew these things were

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around me sort of thing i was never on

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my own if you like

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one time when i was 13

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i literally collapsed in the woods and

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my appendix had burst in i was in agony

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i was on floor and these things

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literally started surrounding my head

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all different colors these were this

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time of several weeks but i was in so

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much pain

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um i didn't pay that much attention i

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literally crawled home and i had my

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when i was 15 then

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i had the night of the triangles

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incident

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i literally found myself in a field

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about a mile and a half from my home

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i had no idea how i got there

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you're gonna try and fix that it goes

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i'm in this field no idea i got there

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it's freezing cold 19th january as you

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know is middle of winter i have a

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t-shirt a pair of jeans on

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and as i'm in this field i'm just

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looking up at the sky and as i'm looking

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at the sky the whole sky just moved

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yeah it was it was like a

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giant

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miles wide boomerang shaped um

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craft

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i think of three to be honest with like

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one two three

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so i'm looking at this thing and i'm in

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like a bubble

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like i'm away from the rest of the world

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there's no sound there's no i couldn't

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feel the cold at that point it was um

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it's just me looking at the sky watching

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this thing move and as soon as it moved

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um the bubble bursts sort of thing and i

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i realize i look around

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i'm in the field

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say a few miles from home i recognize

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where i am because i look to my right

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and there's a leisure center

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a half mile to my right and i realize

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where i am all the fields got like a

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very low mist below my knees there's a

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screen behind me though so that's

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probably come from that i'm not going to

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say that's coming from this object or

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anything like that

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so this thing moves and i suddenly

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feel uncomfortable

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and i run home um

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a few miles uh home

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and i lived on a council estate and

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there wasn't a person to be seen on this

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really busy council estate normally

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um it's a sort of a state where everyone

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stands outside and talks you know it's a

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really nice community type of state

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where you stand outside in the old days

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you know it's not like that these days i

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and that's what it was like but all the

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curtains were shut on the homes

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but all the lights are still on so it's

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early evening late evening i don't

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actually know the time so i get home

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not seeing a person not seen a car

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and i get to the front door and i think

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to myself i'm going to be in trouble

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because i literally had no idea where

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i'd been that day or even the previous

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my memory was just gone yeah all i know

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is i was in that field and i'd run home

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um i get to my front door and i think

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i'm gonna be in trouble so i go around

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the back of the house when i was when i

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was a kid and i was naughty

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i would remember i'd go around the back

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of the house and i'd literally climb up

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the drain pipe

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and get me through the bathroom window

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and that's exactly what i did like going

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through the bathroom window or went to

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and i've i thought to myself i'm going

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to be in trouble the next day with my

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parents because i must have done

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something you know because i've i've got

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no memory so something must have

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happened but i didn't know what it was

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so anyway next day i'll go downstairs

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like i say i'm 15 so i'm still in school

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i'm dressed at school i go downstairs my

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parents don't say a word about it apart

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from my mum telling me that i haven't

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cleaned my rugby boots why didn't i

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clean my rugby boots from school the day

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before so at that point i straight away

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we played rugby on wednesday

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night of the triangles it was a

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wednesday we actually moved house about

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two weeks after the night of the

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triangles

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and that's how i know the dates i worked

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it all out from the dates it was the

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same like that all the people

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this way

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the rest of south wales were seeing

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unfortunately nobody saw this thing that

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so my mum didn't say anything to me

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apart from that

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um i didn't

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want to say anything because i didn't

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want to get in trouble so i never said a

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word to her about what i thought had

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happened or you know where what had

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happened for the last few days i knew

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because we were moving i was moving home

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i didn't need to say anything to my

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friends in school

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because we were moving and i thought i'm

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not going to want to look an idiot again

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here we go again without seeing things

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you know

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and this was this was giant i mean i

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couldn't see it was huge it was

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literally miles wide i couldn't see to

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the left how big it was i couldn't see

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to the right how big it was yeah i knew

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the area so i knew it was literally over

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the right hand side it was over the

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forest and the forest was a couple of

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miles wide and this was past the forest

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yeah because it was so high up i mean

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that's why i thought initially i was

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looking at the stars to be honest with

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you but then as soon as it moved i saw

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the rose of light if you think of the

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phoenix lights

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in america if any of you have seen that

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it'll give you an idea of the sort of

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thing that i saw but this wasn't

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large white lights like we saw on

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phoenix lights there was

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six or seven on each side of the phoenix

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lights

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um

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in a boom around shape but one two three

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four meringues

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like that

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um

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yeah so i mean that's that's the knight

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of the tar angle saying i moved

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two weeks after that we moved into the

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oldest house in newport

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and up until that point i've never seen

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ghosts

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and this house was um built in 1580 it

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was a large old mansion house

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and as soon as we moved in literally

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within a day or so i was seeing ghosts i

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was being pushed by ghosts i was being

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spoken to it was you know tapped me on

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the top of the top of the head sitting

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on my bed grabbing my leg

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it was nuts you know i don't know

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whether that was all related that i

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suddenly

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you know become that more attuned

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i haven't had this experience with the

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large craft only a week or so earlier or

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two weeks earlier i don't know whether

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it was that i mean it might be that i

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was i was already achieving they're just

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emptying the environment where i could

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have seen a ghost or experience that

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goes i'm not sure

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um so that that was basically my night

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of the triangle so anyone who's here

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that saw that you're not alone i

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i saw that as well

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i never got to tell anyone you know i

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literally and somebody somebody on

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twitter told me um

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bruce feint and i was talking to the

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author bruce fenton he told me

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about the night the triangles after i

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said to him what had happened to me when

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i was 15.

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and he suggested i'll get in contact

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with soofan and

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talk me through with the guys and

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that's what i did you know so

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that was that sort of thing i had

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already at that point um reported what

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i'd seen at landy moore

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like the cars have already said about

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that so

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that was my that was my uh my younger

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years i didn't really see

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major events i mean were like classic

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major events so things like giant craft

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and craft blending in my garden to be

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honest with you you know other people

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might think major event is seeing ufo i

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i see ufos every week

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you know and i always have i'll see i'll

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see

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orange orbs in the sky

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i'm like like you're going to see

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on the

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presentation but i see those all the

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time every every three months i'll see

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three giant um

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orange orbs that pass but it doesn't

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matter where i live i've lived right

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across south wales

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and these things are everywhere it's

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like

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it was more intense when i was living in

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landing quite honestly this area

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has got a large magnetic anomaly in the

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area the swansea

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and the gower peninsula it's got a very

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large magnetic anomaly and i was seeing

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things in

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all the time i literally worked from

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home and i would look out

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onto the estuary onto the liquor estuary

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and i would look up in the sky i'd see

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cigars going over i'd see the emerald

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craft coming over all sorts of things

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going on down there it was a it was just

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normal for me you know i mean there's

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people say to me why don't i take lots

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of pictures well i see these things all

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the time

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you know and i always have and to be

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honest they were annoyance

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they almost spoiled my childhood

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you know

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so

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let's move on to the uh slides

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sorry i never got emotional about this

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okay so

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me and my wife got boogled in newport we

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were looking in uh pontering newport we

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got boogles we moved down the gower i

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thought i'm going to move anywhere i

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want to move somewhere nice

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and we had this beautiful

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barn conversion on the coast overlooking

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the estuary in landy mall

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and i worked from home and i had a

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little office and like i said

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as i've gone on my side

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no i could you just yeah so you can see

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my house on the left hand side there

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there's a tennis court to the to

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the top of the screen

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um so there's a large

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arrow pointing at the point where i saw

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an object so it's 2010 october the 7th

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2010.

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um i'm downstairs with my two-year-old

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daughter then daisy may

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and

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my wife's upstairs having a shower i've

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just done a day's work my wife didn't

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work she looked after my daughter and

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then i looked after her in the evenings

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and she did her own things in the

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evening

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so i'm sat downstairs in the tv room

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and

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my

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daughter walks over to the conservatory

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window and she points out she's not

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talking that much at this point but she

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points she walks over the conceptually

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window she points out she says bright

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so i i was impressed to start with

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that's a great word you know bright

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she's not talking much and i was

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impressed so i walked over to the

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conservatory thinking what she's looking

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at

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neighbors tennis courts who seen it on

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the left-hand side there

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in the top right hand corner

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there was an orange orb a large

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um transit size orange orb in the

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right next to the tennis court there was

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a tree in the right hand corner at the

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back and this was level with my house

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i'm living in the top of the hill the

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very first house in landing more so i've

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got best view

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so i'm looking down but this thing was

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literally level with my conservatory

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and i mean the only way to describe it

443
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is like an egg shape

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there is a picture you'll see that i

445
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took plenty of pictures

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um

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an egg shaped sun it looked just like a

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sun

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okay but it's in the night time

450
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this is eating between eight and nine in

451
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the evening

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um

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so yeah this is the uh the actual

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objects it's not a um it's not made up

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object that is the actual object that we

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saw

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um

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this this all happened over the space of

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an airway okay this incident this wasn't

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the fleeting little thing that just shot

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off and it was gone

462
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this was an ongoing

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event

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so

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okay

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so this thing is in the sky it then if i

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if i had blinked i would have missed it

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if you this if you listen to what they

469
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when they talk about the nimitz and the

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80 000 mile an hour craft

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um the tic-tac that shot to the seat

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you know in a blink of an eye you know

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that's how fast it was this is how fast

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this object was

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it literally shot half a mile to my

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right remember though i'm looking down

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at it so it's literally very close to me

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still it seems it's not you know like

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half a mile i think that's too far you

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can see what's going on mate no this was

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literally boom to my right and i could

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still see it perfectly

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so i thought it would crash it was so

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fast and i thought oh my god even though

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i've seen these things before like i

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said

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this was this was um

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strangers because my daughter just

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started it off i mean it just put me off

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guard a little bit

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um

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and the fact that it moved so fast i've

493
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never seen them up until that point

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moved like that they've never done

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normally just mosey along around me yeah

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or they just drift

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like a balloon that sort of speed really

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slow that always let me have a show this

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was this was like um

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crazy speed

501
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boom so i thought crash there was no

502
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explosion

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um

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then

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to the north of that between bow reports

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and to naturally on the opposite

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coastline

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yeah this object appears

509
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okay so directly upset me and in between

510
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this object that has now landed on the

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ground the orange orb this white object

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appears there's a cloud

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there's so you can't see the stars

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and the cloud level is low

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so this was actually quite low between

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bury port and financially this white

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object i'm going to go back now back to

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those other two

519
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and as i'm watching that i'm thinking

520
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what the hell is that i can hear i've

521
00:19:36,549 --> 00:19:35,200
opened the window now so i can see if i

522
00:19:39,190 --> 00:19:36,559
can hear anything i can hear a thing

523
00:19:40,470 --> 00:19:39,200
there's no sound apart from the wind

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so we're on top of the hill and it's on

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the coast

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and now i can hear what sounds like a

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chinook helicopter coming from um

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garriton

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area so

530
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large twin rotor military shimmer

531
00:19:55,510 --> 00:19:53,280
helicopter coming in

532
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directly towards this object that's now

533
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on the ground the orange orb

534
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this orange orb has now

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lots and lots of different colours huge

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flashes of light like a lighthouse and

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they seem to be directed to me that's

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the way it felt to me but it was so

539
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bright it it felt like everyone in the

540
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area should be able to see it on both

541
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sides of the coast you know the whole

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00:20:20,950 --> 00:20:19,840
garage and to land anymore should have

543
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been able to see this because it was

544
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like a light ace it was crazy bright

545
00:20:27,190 --> 00:20:25,520
i was literally going wow every time it

546
00:20:30,230 --> 00:20:27,200
would flash that's how bright these

547
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things were i mean i ran down um to the

548
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bottom of my house

549
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to get my then my office to get my

550
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binoculars and a brand new camera that

551
00:20:40,950 --> 00:20:39,679
literally turned up

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00:20:43,270 --> 00:20:40,960
day you know

553
00:20:45,029 --> 00:20:43,280
one or two days before i had never used

554
00:20:47,110 --> 00:20:45,039
the camera i bought the camera for um

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product pictures of my business

556
00:20:50,470 --> 00:20:48,240
because i was selling things on the

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internet and i needed a camera um but i

558
00:20:53,270 --> 00:20:52,159
only learned how to use it literally you

559
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know what it's like

560
00:20:56,789 --> 00:20:54,960
so it turns up and you're not ready to

561
00:20:58,149 --> 00:20:56,799
use it you just test it so just in case

562
00:21:00,310 --> 00:20:58,159
you've got to send it back that's what i

563
00:21:02,549 --> 00:21:00,320
did you know i put batteries in

564
00:21:04,230 --> 00:21:02,559
and that was the extent of what i knew

565
00:21:05,830 --> 00:21:04,240
about that camera and tested it or

566
00:21:07,909 --> 00:21:05,840
anything i didn't have a clue how to use

567
00:21:08,870 --> 00:21:07,919
it anyway so i go back to the top of the

568
00:21:11,110 --> 00:21:08,880
house i started looking through

569
00:21:12,870 --> 00:21:11,120
binoculars again these flashes

570
00:21:15,350 --> 00:21:12,880
they're almost too bright to look at

571
00:21:17,750 --> 00:21:15,360
through the food binoculars

572
00:21:19,669 --> 00:21:17,760
this is all going on all these flashes

573
00:21:22,310 --> 00:21:19,679
the helicopter has now gone up to the

574
00:21:23,990 --> 00:21:22,320
object on the ground about 200 feet

575
00:21:26,390 --> 00:21:24,000
something like that as a guest obviously

576
00:21:28,630 --> 00:21:26,400
this is half a mile from me but it gets

577
00:21:30,630 --> 00:21:28,640
very close there's a light that passes

578
00:21:32,549 --> 00:21:30,640
between two

579
00:21:33,750 --> 00:21:32,559
this helicopter and the object on the

580
00:21:36,149 --> 00:21:33,760
ground

581
00:21:38,070 --> 00:21:36,159
and the helicopter vanish

582
00:21:40,149 --> 00:21:38,080
okay so i had the window open and the

583
00:21:41,909 --> 00:21:40,159
helicopter in there was very

584
00:21:43,909 --> 00:21:41,919
very loud

585
00:21:47,190 --> 00:21:43,919
yeah and they just vanished and so did

586
00:21:48,310 --> 00:21:47,200
the same with the helicopter just gone

587
00:21:50,789 --> 00:21:48,320
okay

588
00:21:53,430 --> 00:21:50,799
but it immediately reappeared and the

589
00:21:55,510 --> 00:21:53,440
same immediately reappeared

590
00:21:57,909 --> 00:21:55,520
back down by garrett

591
00:21:59,990 --> 00:21:57,919
and it did exactly the same thing over

592
00:22:01,909 --> 00:22:00,000
and over and over

593
00:22:03,590 --> 00:22:01,919
this was the eight or nine times i

594
00:22:05,909 --> 00:22:03,600
watched this helicopter come in i

595
00:22:07,830 --> 00:22:05,919
watched the light shine the noise going

596
00:22:10,230 --> 00:22:07,840
later and over and over and then it just

597
00:22:12,549 --> 00:22:10,240
vanished each time so this was not a

598
00:22:13,590 --> 00:22:12,559
real helicopter okay and it's over the

599
00:22:15,430 --> 00:22:13,600
years

600
00:22:18,390 --> 00:22:15,440
i've i've come to the conclusion that

601
00:22:21,830 --> 00:22:18,400
this was some sort of distraction

602
00:22:23,430 --> 00:22:21,840
um to make people think this was a real

603
00:22:25,270 --> 00:22:23,440
human event

604
00:22:27,830 --> 00:22:25,280
yeah and so don't pay any attention this

605
00:22:29,909 --> 00:22:27,840
is probably the police or this the coast

606
00:22:30,710 --> 00:22:29,919
guard or something like that well it's

607
00:22:32,470 --> 00:22:30,720
not

608
00:22:34,789 --> 00:22:32,480
okay these helicopters are a thing i've

609
00:22:37,270 --> 00:22:34,799
looked into them since i'm

610
00:22:39,110 --> 00:22:37,280
i'm big into researching this subject

611
00:22:40,470 --> 00:22:39,120
and i've made contact with people like

612
00:22:41,909 --> 00:22:40,480
eric davis

613
00:22:43,830 --> 00:22:41,919
hal put off

614
00:22:47,110 --> 00:22:43,840
all the top people in this topic and

615
00:22:48,549 --> 00:22:47,120
they've told me papers they've released

616
00:22:50,310 --> 00:22:48,559
based on

617
00:22:52,549 --> 00:22:50,320
these objects can basically make

618
00:22:54,390 --> 00:22:52,559
themselves manifest and look as anything

619
00:22:55,669 --> 00:22:54,400
they want to look at they can make

620
00:22:57,190 --> 00:22:55,679
themselves look like a house they can

621
00:22:59,350 --> 00:22:57,200
make themselves look like a meteor a

622
00:23:00,870 --> 00:22:59,360
cloud anything they can alter your

623
00:23:03,350 --> 00:23:00,880
perceptions

624
00:23:06,549 --> 00:23:03,360
and they can also

625
00:23:08,470 --> 00:23:06,559
be used in a holographic way and

626
00:23:12,549 --> 00:23:08,480
i've been told that um this is very

627
00:23:17,430 --> 00:23:13,909
it's escaping

628
00:23:23,750 --> 00:23:21,750
yeah cash land running in america where

629
00:23:25,590 --> 00:23:23,760
two ladies and a young child were

630
00:23:27,669 --> 00:23:25,600
injured

631
00:23:30,789 --> 00:23:27,679
and had radiation boons and they

632
00:23:32,710 --> 00:23:30,799
reported seeing a diamond-shaped object

633
00:23:34,870 --> 00:23:32,720
a craft at the time this is what did

634
00:23:38,230 --> 00:23:34,880
that but at the same time they reported

635
00:23:39,990 --> 00:23:38,240
23 chinook helicopters

636
00:23:43,190 --> 00:23:40,000
were supposedly chasing after this

637
00:23:46,470 --> 00:23:43,200
object well they researched that and

638
00:23:48,230 --> 00:23:46,480
there weren't 23 helicopters within

639
00:23:50,149 --> 00:23:48,240
hundreds and hundreds of miles and none

640
00:23:52,390 --> 00:23:50,159
of the bases had anything like 23

641
00:23:54,549 --> 00:23:52,400
helicopters available to them

642
00:23:56,950 --> 00:23:54,559
um so it was there was no way that that

643
00:23:59,110 --> 00:23:56,960
was a they were real helicopters so

644
00:23:59,830 --> 00:23:59,120
again this is why it was pointed out to

645
00:24:03,110 --> 00:23:59,840
me

646
00:24:07,350 --> 00:24:03,120
they use fake helicopters again it was a

647
00:24:10,630 --> 00:24:07,360
a russian video um released in 2006 with

648
00:24:12,789 --> 00:24:10,640
six where they did a soft disclosure

649
00:24:15,669 --> 00:24:12,799
and uh the russians did a soft

650
00:24:19,430 --> 00:24:15,679
disclosure about um uso's underwater

651
00:24:21,750 --> 00:24:19,440
underwater um ufos basically there

652
00:24:23,269 --> 00:24:21,760
and they reported that a helicopter was

653
00:24:25,669 --> 00:24:23,279
seen

654
00:24:27,269 --> 00:24:25,679
and used as a way to distract the

655
00:24:28,149 --> 00:24:27,279
russian navy because they were trying to

656
00:24:31,909 --> 00:24:28,159
trap

657
00:24:33,830 --> 00:24:31,919
a uso and they literally got it in bay

658
00:24:36,710 --> 00:24:33,840
and they were trying to destroy it

659
00:24:39,430 --> 00:24:36,720
and they reported that the helicopter

660
00:24:41,830 --> 00:24:39,440
arrived out of nowhere flew nothing like

661
00:24:44,630 --> 00:24:41,840
a normal helicopter would fly

662
00:24:47,510 --> 00:24:44,640
and as soon as that arrived the uso

663
00:24:50,630 --> 00:24:47,520
escaped and then the helicopter vanished

664
00:24:51,590 --> 00:24:50,640
okay so these helicopters are a thing

665
00:24:54,230 --> 00:24:51,600
so

666
00:24:56,789 --> 00:24:54,240
you know we we've literally had this

667
00:24:58,950 --> 00:24:56,799
incident on your doorstep so so you're

668
00:25:00,789 --> 00:24:58,960
aware that

669
00:25:02,710 --> 00:25:00,799
this and this sort of thing is going on

670
00:25:05,269 --> 00:25:02,720
it's just happened in australia as well

671
00:25:07,029 --> 00:25:05,279
i was i was talking to ross protag the

672
00:25:08,710 --> 00:25:07,039
investigative journalist he's become a

673
00:25:10,789 --> 00:25:08,720
good friend he interviewed me about two

674
00:25:12,070 --> 00:25:10,799
years ago for his book

675
00:25:13,750 --> 00:25:12,080
and he

676
00:25:15,510 --> 00:25:13,760
told me that

677
00:25:17,990 --> 00:25:15,520
he'd been speaking to special forces

678
00:25:20,070 --> 00:25:18,000
troops and the special forces troops had

679
00:25:22,390 --> 00:25:20,080
seen orange orbs at the same time as

680
00:25:26,149 --> 00:25:22,400
fake helicopters so again this is a

681
00:25:27,830 --> 00:25:26,159
worldwide thing that's going on so

682
00:25:30,149 --> 00:25:27,840
be proud of the fact we're in worlds and

683
00:25:32,950 --> 00:25:30,159
this is actually pretty special you know

684
00:25:34,549 --> 00:25:32,960
we've had a landing case that is um

685
00:25:35,510 --> 00:25:34,559
you've probably never even heard of most

686
00:25:37,830 --> 00:25:35,520
of you

687
00:25:39,510 --> 00:25:37,840
um on your doorstep but you've also had

688
00:25:41,269 --> 00:25:39,520
um

689
00:25:43,190 --> 00:25:41,279
pretty amazing thing going on with this

690
00:25:44,950 --> 00:25:43,200
helicopter this is very very rare it's

691
00:25:47,029 --> 00:25:44,960
only happened from where i can fly and

692
00:25:49,990 --> 00:25:47,039
i've been researching it now for

693
00:25:51,190 --> 00:25:50,000
20 plus years four other incidents

694
00:25:53,430 --> 00:25:51,200
where this has happened and i've just

695
00:25:56,390 --> 00:25:53,440
told you about them so again it's pretty

696
00:25:59,029 --> 00:25:56,400
special i mean wales is a hot spot you

697
00:26:00,390 --> 00:25:59,039
know we really have got to realize there

698
00:26:02,549 --> 00:26:00,400
are others

699
00:26:04,470 --> 00:26:02,559
yeah so i'm learning but i did i did an

700
00:26:06,630 --> 00:26:04,480
interview with um mike and emily the

701
00:26:08,310 --> 00:26:06,640
other day and they spoke about some

702
00:26:09,590 --> 00:26:08,320
other helicopter incidents in wales and

703
00:26:11,190 --> 00:26:09,600
i was quite shocked to be honest i've

704
00:26:13,909 --> 00:26:11,200
never heard of them

705
00:26:16,390 --> 00:26:13,919
yeah very interested

706
00:26:18,070 --> 00:26:16,400
right so anyway this object after the

707
00:26:20,470 --> 00:26:18,080
flashing has gone on

708
00:26:22,149 --> 00:26:20,480
um i've missed the part here it

709
00:26:23,669 --> 00:26:22,159
literally the flashing stop there all

710
00:26:26,630 --> 00:26:23,679
these different massive flashes of color

711
00:26:27,830 --> 00:26:26,640
stopped and the object tuned into a blue

712
00:26:29,510 --> 00:26:27,840
craft

713
00:26:30,549 --> 00:26:29,520
so you can see that that is the same

714
00:26:32,710 --> 00:26:30,559
craft

715
00:26:34,230 --> 00:26:32,720
the orange orb lands and then it turns

716
00:26:37,110 --> 00:26:34,240
into that blue object and that is the

717
00:26:38,390 --> 00:26:37,120
blue one that stayed there at this point

718
00:26:40,230 --> 00:26:38,400
okay

719
00:26:41,830 --> 00:26:40,240
the object is still the other object is

720
00:26:43,510 --> 00:26:41,840
the white object is still over

721
00:26:44,870 --> 00:26:43,520
photography between both port and the

722
00:26:46,630 --> 00:26:44,880
left he's not doing anything he's just

723
00:26:47,750 --> 00:26:46,640
literally sat there it's about the size

724
00:26:49,430 --> 00:26:47,760
of a

725
00:26:50,710 --> 00:26:49,440
very large moon

726
00:26:52,149 --> 00:26:50,720
but it didn't really do anything it

727
00:26:54,549 --> 00:26:52,159
seemed to be like

728
00:26:55,909 --> 00:26:54,559
keeping an eye on things and not really

729
00:26:58,470 --> 00:26:55,919
doing anything

730
00:27:01,190 --> 00:26:58,480
as i'm watching the helicopter

731
00:27:04,630 --> 00:27:01,200
another object comes in from the sea

732
00:27:08,230 --> 00:27:06,310
that's the helicopter by the way as you

733
00:27:09,909 --> 00:27:08,240
can see i took pictures that looked

734
00:27:12,390 --> 00:27:09,919
nothing like a helicopter each picture

735
00:27:14,230 --> 00:27:12,400
that i took and i took about 60 pictures

736
00:27:16,149 --> 00:27:14,240
over the course of an hour

737
00:27:18,470 --> 00:27:16,159
every single picture is different

738
00:27:20,470 --> 00:27:18,480
every single i mean it's camera shake

739
00:27:21,990 --> 00:27:20,480
and they're never exposed i'm not going

740
00:27:24,630 --> 00:27:22,000
to lie i i

741
00:27:26,870 --> 00:27:24,640
hadn't learned how to use this camera

742
00:27:28,789 --> 00:27:26,880
and you know i was shaking when i was

743
00:27:30,870 --> 00:27:28,799
taking these pictures and i'll be you

744
00:27:32,549 --> 00:27:30,880
know it was quite an intense experience

745
00:27:34,630 --> 00:27:32,559
going on and i couldn't keep still to do

746
00:27:36,470 --> 00:27:34,640
it properly unfortunately but as you can

747
00:27:38,149 --> 00:27:36,480
see they still look nothing like a

748
00:27:40,389 --> 00:27:38,159
helicopter the colors are all different

749
00:27:41,990 --> 00:27:40,399
each time as well i mean sometimes they

750
00:27:43,350 --> 00:27:42,000
would just be black there would be

751
00:27:45,190 --> 00:27:43,360
nothing in the picture at all would be

752
00:27:47,350 --> 00:27:45,200
something amazing would happen and i'd

753
00:27:49,830 --> 00:27:47,360
be like oh brilliant i take a picture

754
00:27:51,830 --> 00:27:49,840
nothing there okay so the best best part

755
00:27:53,590 --> 00:27:51,840
of the incident unfortunately

756
00:27:55,110 --> 00:27:53,600
you're not gonna be able to see and i

757
00:27:58,310 --> 00:27:55,120
found out the next day

758
00:28:00,950 --> 00:27:58,320
that the camera had a video function

759
00:28:03,110 --> 00:28:00,960
like i said i didn't know

760
00:28:04,389 --> 00:28:03,120
okay apologies to everyone that you

761
00:28:06,230 --> 00:28:04,399
could have been able to see tonight the

762
00:28:09,350 --> 00:28:06,240
best honestly it was the best

763
00:28:11,190 --> 00:28:09,360
it would have been the best ufo

764
00:28:13,669 --> 00:28:11,200
thing that you'd ever seen because it

765
00:28:15,909 --> 00:28:13,679
was you know it's his shots ahead of me

766
00:28:17,909 --> 00:28:15,919
and i've seen these things all my life

767
00:28:20,149 --> 00:28:17,919
this was an intense experience and i

768
00:28:20,570 --> 00:28:20,159
wish i could have shared it with you

769
00:28:21,750 --> 00:28:20,580
um

770
00:28:23,909 --> 00:28:21,760
[Music]

771
00:28:27,190 --> 00:28:23,919
the next one

772
00:28:30,549 --> 00:28:29,430
yeah so that is the again it's another

773
00:28:32,310 --> 00:28:30,559
different picture of that is the

774
00:28:33,669 --> 00:28:32,320
helicopter and that is the blue object

775
00:28:35,750 --> 00:28:33,679
on the ground

776
00:28:36,950 --> 00:28:35,760
and

777
00:28:38,389 --> 00:28:36,960
that's the sort of distance that were

778
00:28:39,909 --> 00:28:38,399
coming up to each other that's where

779
00:28:41,510 --> 00:28:39,919
it's the way it seemed to me before this

780
00:28:43,350 --> 00:28:41,520
helicopter just vanished again it looks

781
00:28:45,510 --> 00:28:43,360
nothing like a helicopter it's like

782
00:28:46,950 --> 00:28:45,520
barrels or something i don't know how to

783
00:28:50,789 --> 00:28:46,960
describe it

784
00:28:54,789 --> 00:28:52,389
now this is the green object that came

785
00:28:57,110 --> 00:28:54,799
in from the sea okay

786
00:28:59,110 --> 00:28:57,120
so i've watched this green object i mean

787
00:29:00,950 --> 00:28:59,120
i've been missing it coming in all this

788
00:29:02,789 --> 00:29:00,960
time coming very low because i've been

789
00:29:04,710 --> 00:29:02,799
concentrating on the right to the right

790
00:29:06,230 --> 00:29:04,720
of me towards garrett and watching that

791
00:29:08,870 --> 00:29:06,240
and the helicopter i've missed this

792
00:29:10,870 --> 00:29:08,880
object and it got really close up

793
00:29:12,630 --> 00:29:10,880
to the one on the ground

794
00:29:14,789 --> 00:29:12,640
and

795
00:29:17,190 --> 00:29:14,799
it it turned orange again did it be an

796
00:29:18,630 --> 00:29:17,200
orange flash that's why that is the blue

797
00:29:20,630 --> 00:29:18,640
object that i'm talking about a second

798
00:29:22,789 --> 00:29:20,640
ago the orange wall

799
00:29:24,549 --> 00:29:22,799
and that is the green object on the top

800
00:29:26,789 --> 00:29:24,559
picture this is that came in from the

801
00:29:28,789 --> 00:29:26,799
sea now what happened next the only way

802
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:28,799
to describe that is

803
00:29:31,830 --> 00:29:30,370
like a star trek

804
00:29:34,070 --> 00:29:31,840
[Music]

805
00:29:36,630 --> 00:29:34,080
beam came from this object the green

806
00:29:39,269 --> 00:29:36,640
object like a tractor beam it wrapped

807
00:29:41,990 --> 00:29:39,279
itself around

808
00:29:43,350 --> 00:29:42,000
the object on the ground and literally

809
00:29:46,310 --> 00:29:43,360
took it hc

810
00:29:47,990 --> 00:29:46,320
very low didn't fly off at speed

811
00:29:48,870 --> 00:29:48,000
i mean i think this object was in

812
00:29:51,190 --> 00:29:48,880
trouble

813
00:29:53,190 --> 00:29:51,200
okay i think that when the flashes of

814
00:29:54,789 --> 00:29:53,200
light were going on i've looked at it

815
00:29:56,310 --> 00:29:54,799
seeing some of you know if you look at

816
00:29:57,669 --> 00:29:56,320
things like close encounters of the

817
00:30:00,149 --> 00:29:57,679
third kind

818
00:30:01,350 --> 00:30:00,159
and you see the flashes that they use in

819
00:30:05,750 --> 00:30:01,360
that

820
00:30:08,310 --> 00:30:05,760
now i've been told as well this the best

821
00:30:09,830 --> 00:30:08,320
form of communication is light so when

822
00:30:11,510 --> 00:30:09,840
those massive flashes of light going

823
00:30:13,510 --> 00:30:11,520
i've come to the conclusion they were

824
00:30:15,190 --> 00:30:13,520
basically calling for help

825
00:30:17,590 --> 00:30:15,200
because within minutes

826
00:30:27,110 --> 00:30:17,600
these other objects all arrived

827
00:30:31,750 --> 00:30:29,909
the object on the left that looks like a

828
00:30:33,750 --> 00:30:31,760
dna helix and that's a bit of camera

829
00:30:35,750 --> 00:30:33,760
it'd be quite nice to do so we you

830
00:30:37,029 --> 00:30:35,760
know don't think it's dna helix it's not

831
00:30:38,389 --> 00:30:37,039
it's got a camera shape but in the

832
00:30:40,470 --> 00:30:38,399
middle of there you can see there are

833
00:30:42,789 --> 00:30:40,480
actually two objects

834
00:30:43,830 --> 00:30:42,799
and that is the two objects going out to

835
00:30:48,389 --> 00:30:43,840
sea

836
00:30:53,750 --> 00:30:51,430
okay next day these these are going to

837
00:30:56,389 --> 00:30:53,760
see now i looked on the

838
00:30:58,230 --> 00:30:56,399
um the news that night there is nothing

839
00:31:00,710 --> 00:30:58,240
oh i've missed it i go upstairs at one

840
00:31:03,110 --> 00:31:00,720
point and grab my wife she's in the

841
00:31:04,630 --> 00:31:03,120
shower okay so i drag her out shower

842
00:31:07,110 --> 00:31:04,640
she's got absolutely no interest in this

843
00:31:08,389 --> 00:31:07,120
topic at all and she thinks i'm nuts for

844
00:31:10,149 --> 00:31:08,399
being involved she doesn't want me to be

845
00:31:11,509 --> 00:31:10,159
involved in it she does my family being

846
00:31:14,310 --> 00:31:11,519
involved with it she's not liking the

847
00:31:16,230 --> 00:31:14,320
fact i'm here tonight requires you but i

848
00:31:17,909 --> 00:31:16,240
have decided it's time for me to start

849
00:31:19,750 --> 00:31:17,919
talking and that's why i'm here tonight

850
00:31:21,909 --> 00:31:19,760
and that's why i'm on the internet now

851
00:31:24,470 --> 00:31:21,919
the last three years since the nimitz

852
00:31:26,549 --> 00:31:24,480
and the new york times things came out i

853
00:31:28,630 --> 00:31:26,559
decided that was that's it

854
00:31:30,230 --> 00:31:28,640
my business is successful enough that i

855
00:31:32,870 --> 00:31:30,240
i don't need to worry about it anymore

856
00:31:35,590 --> 00:31:32,880
if anyone gets upset by it tough okay

857
00:31:36,310 --> 00:31:35,600
that's that's the way i am about it

858
00:31:38,310 --> 00:31:36,320
so

859
00:31:39,350 --> 00:31:38,320
there's nothing on the news that night

860
00:31:41,509 --> 00:31:39,360
um

861
00:31:43,509 --> 00:31:41,519
i can't believe it you know

862
00:31:46,070 --> 00:31:43,519
all these massive flashes of lights this

863
00:31:47,669 --> 00:31:46,080
helicopter i'm thinking everyone must

864
00:31:49,190 --> 00:31:47,679
have seen this nine times this

865
00:31:50,710 --> 00:31:49,200
helicopter came in it must have been

866
00:31:53,350 --> 00:31:50,720
thinking all this noises thing was

867
00:31:54,389 --> 00:31:53,360
making all my neighbors

868
00:31:55,909 --> 00:31:54,399
you know

869
00:31:57,909 --> 00:31:55,919
what's going on

870
00:32:02,470 --> 00:31:57,919
no there was no life going on

871
00:32:06,710 --> 00:32:04,710
i'm down in my office i'm over my normal

872
00:32:08,950 --> 00:32:06,720
day where it's friday now i'm i'm

873
00:32:10,870 --> 00:32:08,960
obsessed by this

874
00:32:12,710 --> 00:32:10,880
and i think i've got it i've got to

875
00:32:15,590 --> 00:32:12,720
start doing something about it so i walk

876
00:32:17,830 --> 00:32:15,600
down the hill i'm on top of the hill

877
00:32:19,350 --> 00:32:17,840
and i think i'm gonna chat with my

878
00:32:21,830 --> 00:32:19,360
neighbors and see whether anyone could

879
00:32:24,549 --> 00:32:21,840
actually see this um

880
00:32:26,070 --> 00:32:24,559
nobody had seen it okay i saw i saw one

881
00:32:28,310 --> 00:32:26,080
gentleman who was in his garden who i'd

882
00:32:30,549 --> 00:32:28,320
seen before and the area is a tourist

883
00:32:33,029 --> 00:32:30,559
area you're probably aware you know it's

884
00:32:35,190 --> 00:32:33,039
a caravan area so

885
00:32:36,549 --> 00:32:35,200
a lot of people are not there you know

886
00:32:38,549 --> 00:32:36,559
in that time of year they've had their

887
00:32:39,909 --> 00:32:38,559
summer months and they've gone back home

888
00:32:42,310 --> 00:32:39,919
and they've got their summer houses and

889
00:32:43,990 --> 00:32:42,320
that's the sort of area is so i saw a

890
00:32:45,669 --> 00:32:44,000
lady that i'd never seen before but i

891
00:32:47,830 --> 00:32:45,679
showed them both i put the images that

892
00:32:49,430 --> 00:32:47,840
i'd taken on my laptop when i took them

893
00:32:52,470 --> 00:32:49,440
down and they couldn't believe

894
00:32:54,710 --> 00:32:52,480
that they'd missed what i'd seen

895
00:32:56,789 --> 00:32:54,720
but they had you know i could like i was

896
00:32:58,310 --> 00:32:56,799
go smacked to be honest i thought all

897
00:32:59,990 --> 00:32:58,320
everyone was gonna know about it and

898
00:33:02,470 --> 00:33:00,000
everyone's gonna say yeah it was amazing

899
00:33:03,909 --> 00:33:02,480
and i've got pictures as well no

900
00:33:05,750 --> 00:33:03,919
i didn't get anything like that so i

901
00:33:06,789 --> 00:33:05,760
didn't get any help

902
00:33:09,590 --> 00:33:06,799
um

903
00:33:12,630 --> 00:33:09,600
so i go back to my house and sat down on

904
00:33:14,070 --> 00:33:12,640
my normal day to work and i look out

905
00:33:18,389 --> 00:33:14,080
and

906
00:33:20,470 --> 00:33:18,399
you know the area from from wheelblade

907
00:33:22,630 --> 00:33:20,480
castle on the gower there's a track that

908
00:33:24,549 --> 00:33:22,640
goes out onto the locker estuary there's

909
00:33:26,549 --> 00:33:24,559
a gate locked gate and there's a track

910
00:33:29,029 --> 00:33:26,559
that goes out this thing has literally

911
00:33:31,350 --> 00:33:29,039
landed on the track okay it was my

912
00:33:33,430 --> 00:33:31,360
normal daily view from my office i knew

913
00:33:35,669 --> 00:33:33,440
exactly where it had landed

914
00:33:37,029 --> 00:33:35,679
and i'm looking out the next day and two

915
00:33:39,430 --> 00:33:37,039
black bands

916
00:33:41,909 --> 00:33:39,440
are at the spot the very next day where

917
00:33:44,389 --> 00:33:41,919
this object had landed i've never seen

918
00:33:46,470 --> 00:33:44,399
anyone out there apart from the farmer

919
00:33:47,750 --> 00:33:46,480
who goes out there intends his salt

920
00:33:49,350 --> 00:33:47,760
marsh lamb

921
00:33:51,669 --> 00:33:49,360
um he's got some harsh lime out there

922
00:33:54,230 --> 00:33:51,679
right now in two years i may have seen

923
00:33:56,470 --> 00:33:54,240
him four times he was very rarely over

924
00:33:58,549 --> 00:33:56,480
as well so it was really unusual to see

925
00:34:00,710 --> 00:33:58,559
i know it's black vans and everyone

926
00:34:03,669 --> 00:34:00,720
thinks maine black and all that i can't

927
00:34:04,789 --> 00:34:03,679
help fat but they were black okay

928
00:34:06,549 --> 00:34:04,799
they were they were literally one

929
00:34:07,750 --> 00:34:06,559
wandering there's three or four men i

930
00:34:09,750 --> 00:34:07,760
couldn't tell because they were going

931
00:34:10,869 --> 00:34:09,760
between the bands all the time

932
00:34:12,389 --> 00:34:10,879
they were

933
00:34:15,109 --> 00:34:12,399
going around with what looked like metal

934
00:34:16,710 --> 00:34:15,119
detectors or radiation

935
00:34:18,389 --> 00:34:16,720
you know i didn't i didn't have my

936
00:34:19,669 --> 00:34:18,399
binoculars and my camera with me at that

937
00:34:20,950 --> 00:34:19,679
point so i left him at the top of the

938
00:34:22,790 --> 00:34:20,960
house

939
00:34:24,629 --> 00:34:22,800
you know from the previous night and to

940
00:34:26,310 --> 00:34:24,639
be honest i was really busy with my

941
00:34:28,149 --> 00:34:26,320
business at that time and when i was

942
00:34:30,470 --> 00:34:28,159
doing work i concentrated on my business

943
00:34:32,069 --> 00:34:30,480
and i carried on my day you know i

944
00:34:33,589 --> 00:34:32,079
kicked myself now though i didn't go and

945
00:34:34,869 --> 00:34:33,599
get my camera

946
00:34:36,230 --> 00:34:34,879
and take pictures of those so that

947
00:34:38,069 --> 00:34:36,240
people know but i'm telling the truth

948
00:34:41,510 --> 00:34:38,079
about the black lines as well but you

949
00:34:44,629 --> 00:34:41,520
know i've got pictures of the ufo so

950
00:34:50,149 --> 00:34:47,190
so next slide

951
00:34:51,829 --> 00:34:50,159
so yeah same day again on friday

952
00:34:53,909 --> 00:34:51,839
i think right i'm not getting anywhere

953
00:34:55,669 --> 00:34:53,919
with this i'm just finishing my day i'm

954
00:34:57,829 --> 00:34:55,679
going to start phoning around so i

955
00:35:00,230 --> 00:34:57,839
phoned up the um

956
00:35:02,470 --> 00:35:00,240
swansea airport even though i know it's

957
00:35:04,310 --> 00:35:02,480
a commercial airport you know like the

958
00:35:05,829 --> 00:35:04,320
aircraft place

959
00:35:07,430 --> 00:35:05,839
it's not going to be involved in this at

960
00:35:08,790 --> 00:35:07,440
all but i thought what if they've got

961
00:35:10,710 --> 00:35:08,800
something on the radar or something like

962
00:35:12,230 --> 00:35:10,720
that i'll phone them up just in case

963
00:35:13,190 --> 00:35:12,240
didn't know anything about it nothing to

964
00:35:14,870 --> 00:35:13,200
do with us

965
00:35:17,510 --> 00:35:14,880
um

966
00:35:19,349 --> 00:35:17,520
sorry i've skipped a bit on the night

967
00:35:21,109 --> 00:35:19,359
i actually phoned the police

968
00:35:22,390 --> 00:35:21,119
after i went up to my wife and i came

969
00:35:23,910 --> 00:35:22,400
back downstairs i actually found the

970
00:35:25,910 --> 00:35:23,920
police because i thought this is a major

971
00:35:28,230 --> 00:35:25,920
incident i better report it

972
00:35:30,390 --> 00:35:28,240
okay the police said they did nobody

973
00:35:32,790 --> 00:35:30,400
else reported anything

974
00:35:33,990 --> 00:35:32,800
and could i keep me keep in contact with

975
00:35:35,589 --> 00:35:34,000
them and i mean they used to keep in

976
00:35:37,430 --> 00:35:35,599
contact with me after that they were

977
00:35:39,829 --> 00:35:37,440
phoning me up literally every week for

978
00:35:40,950 --> 00:35:39,839
weeks on end had i heard anything more

979
00:35:42,230 --> 00:35:40,960
about this because everyone was

980
00:35:44,550 --> 00:35:42,240
interested in the police station they

981
00:35:47,829 --> 00:35:44,560
were telling me okay

982
00:35:49,430 --> 00:35:47,839
um so back to folding around i phoned uh

983
00:35:50,630 --> 00:35:49,440
swansea coast guards once the coast

984
00:35:52,630 --> 00:35:50,640
guard said

985
00:35:53,990 --> 00:35:52,640
no it's nothing to do with us because i

986
00:35:56,310 --> 00:35:54,000
was thinking is it a coast guard

987
00:35:57,430 --> 00:35:56,320
helicopter am i being stupid you know

988
00:35:59,349 --> 00:35:57,440
even though i've seen these things

989
00:36:01,190 --> 00:35:59,359
before i thought i gotta

990
00:36:02,870 --> 00:36:01,200
cover my bases you know

991
00:36:04,710 --> 00:36:02,880
no it's nothing to do with us but why

992
00:36:06,150 --> 00:36:04,720
don't you try the cornish coast guard

993
00:36:08,630 --> 00:36:06,160
they said because they sometimes do

994
00:36:10,310 --> 00:36:08,640
exercises in the area so i phoned them

995
00:36:13,030 --> 00:36:10,320
as well and they said no this is nothing

996
00:36:14,870 --> 00:36:13,040
to do with i found on the opposite

997
00:36:16,470 --> 00:36:14,880
coastline directly opposite me is raf

998
00:36:17,829 --> 00:36:16,480
pembry so i thought

999
00:36:18,950 --> 00:36:17,839
maybe it's something to do with them i

1000
00:36:20,710 --> 00:36:18,960
phoned them

1001
00:36:22,710 --> 00:36:20,720
they were really excuse the language

1002
00:36:25,109 --> 00:36:22,720
pissy with me on the phone didn't want

1003
00:36:27,190 --> 00:36:25,119
to speak to me about it at all

1004
00:36:29,109 --> 00:36:27,200
why are you bothering with this rubbish

1005
00:36:30,950 --> 00:36:29,119
that type of you know i was it was an

1006
00:36:32,550 --> 00:36:30,960
embarrassing phone call an annoying

1007
00:36:34,150 --> 00:36:32,560
phone call after i put the phone down i

1008
00:36:36,310 --> 00:36:34,160
was annoyed with them you know because

1009
00:36:38,310 --> 00:36:36,320
they just didn't want to know um no we

1010
00:36:42,230 --> 00:36:38,320
shot five o'clock go away that was the

1011
00:36:43,750 --> 00:36:42,240
sort of reply i had from them

1012
00:36:45,270 --> 00:36:43,760
i phoned the local fire station i

1013
00:36:47,750 --> 00:36:45,280
thought well initially i thought it was

1014
00:36:49,589 --> 00:36:47,760
an explosion you know again

1015
00:36:51,829 --> 00:36:49,599
with a fire station did anyone report

1016
00:36:53,990 --> 00:36:51,839
something to them no nothing to do with

1017
00:36:56,069 --> 00:36:54,000
them

1018
00:36:58,310 --> 00:36:56,079
so absolutely nobody

1019
00:36:59,750 --> 00:36:58,320
was helping me with this at all i wasn't

1020
00:37:01,829 --> 00:36:59,760
going anywhere there was nothing on the

1021
00:37:04,150 --> 00:37:01,839
news there was nothing on the radio none

1022
00:37:06,829 --> 00:37:04,160
of my neighbors had seen anything

1023
00:37:10,710 --> 00:37:09,349
so about a week long come back in a

1024
00:37:12,790 --> 00:37:10,720
minute because a lot more went on in the

1025
00:37:15,829 --> 00:37:12,800
next couple of days but about a week

1026
00:37:18,710 --> 00:37:15,839
later i went to the local garage and

1027
00:37:20,310 --> 00:37:18,720
um there was nobody in there so

1028
00:37:22,870 --> 00:37:20,320
embarrassment was not a problem i said

1029
00:37:24,710 --> 00:37:22,880
to the lady behind the counter as anyone

1030
00:37:27,750 --> 00:37:24,720
uh language and gary to think unless it

1031
00:37:28,790 --> 00:37:27,760
was um has anyone reported seeing

1032
00:37:30,550 --> 00:37:28,800
anything

1033
00:37:32,710 --> 00:37:30,560
and i told him what happened you know

1034
00:37:34,390 --> 00:37:32,720
and she said yes we had some tourists in

1035
00:37:36,470 --> 00:37:34,400
here a few weeks ago

1036
00:37:38,710 --> 00:37:36,480
and they saw flashes on the marsh and

1037
00:37:40,069 --> 00:37:38,720
they said everyone's seen it

1038
00:37:41,349 --> 00:37:40,079
uh trouble is they were they were

1039
00:37:42,950 --> 00:37:41,359
tourists

1040
00:37:45,430 --> 00:37:42,960
and i couldn't get in contact with them

1041
00:37:50,790 --> 00:37:45,440
so dead yeah

1042
00:37:54,870 --> 00:37:51,589
so

1043
00:37:56,550 --> 00:37:54,880
could say the track went out from the

1044
00:37:58,630 --> 00:37:56,560
local castle and i'd seen these black

1045
00:38:00,710 --> 00:37:58,640
vans and i i thought i had a bit of a

1046
00:38:02,230 --> 00:38:00,720
slap day in work and i said to my wife

1047
00:38:04,790 --> 00:38:02,240
um

1048
00:38:05,829 --> 00:38:04,800
i'll use i use the excuse let's go to

1049
00:38:07,109 --> 00:38:05,839
the castle

1050
00:38:09,990 --> 00:38:07,119
yeah that's when i look around the

1051
00:38:11,670 --> 00:38:10,000
castle but my really my real intent was

1052
00:38:13,270 --> 00:38:11,680
obviously i wanted to speak to the

1053
00:38:15,670 --> 00:38:13,280
farmer who ran

1054
00:38:17,270 --> 00:38:15,680
the castle and had the sheep out there

1055
00:38:19,910 --> 00:38:17,280
because i wanted to know

1056
00:38:21,910 --> 00:38:19,920
who these guys in black fans were

1057
00:38:23,349 --> 00:38:21,920
okay and who you know

1058
00:38:25,270 --> 00:38:23,359
why did you let him out there i wanted

1059
00:38:27,670 --> 00:38:25,280
to know if he knew anything so we go

1060
00:38:29,349 --> 00:38:27,680
around the castle they had a

1061
00:38:30,950 --> 00:38:29,359
from memory it was a marquee or

1062
00:38:32,790 --> 00:38:30,960
something they had up as a

1063
00:38:34,630 --> 00:38:32,800
little coffee type area

1064
00:38:36,710 --> 00:38:34,640
so afterwards we went in there and to

1065
00:38:38,790 --> 00:38:36,720
have a coffee and

1066
00:38:40,710 --> 00:38:38,800
again the lady behind the counter i said

1067
00:38:43,750 --> 00:38:40,720
to her can i speak to the farmer how do

1068
00:38:46,069 --> 00:38:43,760
i speak to him and amazingly

1069
00:38:48,150 --> 00:38:46,079
the guy stood sat right behind me was

1070
00:38:49,349 --> 00:38:48,160
the farmer i couldn't believe my luck he

1071
00:38:52,310 --> 00:38:49,359
was like

1072
00:38:54,390 --> 00:38:52,320
what a perfect day to pick to go and

1073
00:38:56,069 --> 00:38:54,400
just speak to him you know he's i

1074
00:38:57,430 --> 00:38:56,079
couldn't believe he was in there but i

1075
00:38:59,190 --> 00:38:57,440
told him again

1076
00:39:00,950 --> 00:38:59,200
what had happened and i said who were

1077
00:39:02,950 --> 00:39:00,960
these guys who were these guys in the

1078
00:39:05,510 --> 00:39:02,960
black pants that you let out there and

1079
00:39:07,670 --> 00:39:05,520
he looks at me with a puzzled expression

1080
00:39:09,910 --> 00:39:07,680
and um

1081
00:39:12,069 --> 00:39:09,920
he says i've never let anyone out there

1082
00:39:14,390 --> 00:39:12,079
nobody has ever been out there in fact i

1083
00:39:15,270 --> 00:39:14,400
very rarely go out there

1084
00:39:17,750 --> 00:39:15,280
okay

1085
00:39:19,190 --> 00:39:17,760
so i'm look i'm disbelieving this as

1086
00:39:21,109 --> 00:39:19,200
well because i've seen them

1087
00:39:23,349 --> 00:39:21,119
okay so he said i'll prove it so he

1088
00:39:25,430 --> 00:39:23,359
takes me down me and my wife go down the

1089
00:39:27,589 --> 00:39:25,440
hill he takes us to the gate and you can

1090
00:39:29,750 --> 00:39:27,599
see the gates the pad locked up and it's

1091
00:39:31,190 --> 00:39:29,760
rested up and it looks like nobody ever

1092
00:39:32,069 --> 00:39:31,200
goes out there and there's a sign that

1093
00:39:33,430 --> 00:39:32,079
says

1094
00:39:35,589 --> 00:39:33,440
um

1095
00:39:37,109 --> 00:39:35,599
you know keep out and

1096
00:39:39,670 --> 00:39:37,119
you're not allowed out there

1097
00:39:41,589 --> 00:39:39,680
okay so who were these people i mean i

1098
00:39:43,589 --> 00:39:41,599
mean my friend ross coulthard the

1099
00:39:45,670 --> 00:39:43,599
investigative journalist has spoken to

1100
00:39:46,550 --> 00:39:45,680
louis and i don't know whether any of

1101
00:39:48,390 --> 00:39:46,560
you

1102
00:39:50,069 --> 00:39:48,400
know lou alexander is quite famous in

1103
00:39:51,750 --> 00:39:50,079
this um

1104
00:39:52,790 --> 00:39:51,760
you probably all know i'm sorry excuse

1105
00:39:54,550 --> 00:39:52,800
me

1106
00:39:56,390 --> 00:39:54,560
um

1107
00:39:57,750 --> 00:39:56,400
lou alexander

1108
00:39:59,589 --> 00:39:57,760
ate it for

1109
00:40:01,589 --> 00:39:59,599
the american government

1110
00:40:03,589 --> 00:40:01,599
basically for looking into ufos when

1111
00:40:05,270 --> 00:40:03,599
they said they they'd stopped looking

1112
00:40:07,349 --> 00:40:05,280
into ufos after blue book and things

1113
00:40:10,710 --> 00:40:07,359
like that that was rubbish they carried

1114
00:40:13,349 --> 00:40:10,720
on okay and lou alexander came out about

1115
00:40:15,990 --> 00:40:13,359
three years ago basically and said

1116
00:40:17,829 --> 00:40:16,000
i ran it and he's proved it since okay

1117
00:40:19,349 --> 00:40:17,839
he's been involved in getting all the

1118
00:40:21,430 --> 00:40:19,359
information out and trying to get

1119
00:40:24,150 --> 00:40:21,440
hearings in congress and things like

1120
00:40:25,670 --> 00:40:24,160
that ever since anyway my friend ross

1121
00:40:27,190 --> 00:40:25,680
called her this investigative journalist

1122
00:40:29,430 --> 00:40:27,200
went to meet him because he was writing

1123
00:40:30,470 --> 00:40:29,440
this book and he wanted to interview him

1124
00:40:33,030 --> 00:40:30,480
and during

1125
00:40:35,030 --> 00:40:33,040
that time at his house he told him about

1126
00:40:36,950 --> 00:40:35,040
this incident of mine because we'd

1127
00:40:39,030 --> 00:40:36,960
become good friends and he told him

1128
00:40:41,910 --> 00:40:39,040
about the black bands

1129
00:40:43,670 --> 00:40:41,920
and i mean luke sent me a video saying

1130
00:40:46,150 --> 00:40:43,680
you know i wish you were here type video

1131
00:40:47,510 --> 00:40:46,160
you know you've seen that

1132
00:40:49,670 --> 00:40:47,520
um

1133
00:40:50,950 --> 00:40:49,680
to give you an idea that i'm i'm quite

1134
00:40:53,430 --> 00:40:50,960
involved

1135
00:40:55,270 --> 00:40:53,440
in this topic as apart from just doing

1136
00:40:56,950 --> 00:40:55,280
this in wales i mean

1137
00:40:59,190 --> 00:40:56,960
the guys at sioux farm tend to

1138
00:41:01,910 --> 00:40:59,200
concentrate apart from mike trying to

1139
00:41:03,589 --> 00:41:01,920
concentrate on what's going on in wales

1140
00:41:05,349 --> 00:41:03,599
but i've tended to concentrate what's

1141
00:41:06,950 --> 00:41:05,359
going on in the world

1142
00:41:09,510 --> 00:41:06,960
and i've i don't know whether it's

1143
00:41:11,190 --> 00:41:09,520
something to do with um

1144
00:41:13,990 --> 00:41:11,200
what's going on with me and my

1145
00:41:16,069 --> 00:41:14,000
interactions um but i i tend for some

1146
00:41:18,069 --> 00:41:16,079
reason i'm allowed to speak to people i

1147
00:41:20,470 --> 00:41:18,079
speak on a daily basis with how put off

1148
00:41:23,430 --> 00:41:20,480
i speak to eric davis i speak to

1149
00:41:27,270 --> 00:41:23,440
everyone at the top this topic

1150
00:41:30,230 --> 00:41:27,280
everyone okay i've got a private group

1151
00:41:31,829 --> 00:41:30,240
of scientists that i i chat to again

1152
00:41:33,430 --> 00:41:31,839
every day

1153
00:41:35,510 --> 00:41:33,440
part of the seo team i don't know

1154
00:41:37,750 --> 00:41:35,520
whether people know that there's the

1155
00:41:39,589 --> 00:41:37,760
uapx team in america just looking at

1156
00:41:41,670 --> 00:41:39,599
catalina islands

1157
00:41:42,790 --> 00:41:41,680
they're all part of my group

1158
00:41:44,790 --> 00:41:42,800
okay

1159
00:41:46,309 --> 00:41:44,800
and so we all interact and we're all

1160
00:41:48,550 --> 00:41:46,319
brainstorming

1161
00:41:49,510 --> 00:41:48,560
and none of us are going to lose

1162
00:41:50,309 --> 00:41:49,520
so

1163
00:41:51,990 --> 00:41:50,319
okay

1164
00:41:54,630 --> 00:41:52,000
and they are the people that know we've

1165
00:41:56,230 --> 00:41:54,640
got people from black projects

1166
00:41:59,270 --> 00:41:56,240
on our team

1167
00:42:00,870 --> 00:41:59,280
we've got xsas intelligence people on

1168
00:42:03,589 --> 00:42:00,880
our team

1169
00:42:05,109 --> 00:42:03,599
and they all know bits but nobody has

1170
00:42:07,109 --> 00:42:05,119
got the real picture

1171
00:42:10,230 --> 00:42:07,119
okay

1172
00:42:11,750 --> 00:42:10,240
where am i i've gone off track

1173
00:42:13,349 --> 00:42:11,760
so anyway i've gone i've gone to the

1174
00:42:32,150 --> 00:42:13,359
local farm where are we

1175
00:42:36,630 --> 00:42:34,710
basically told my friend ross coulthard

1176
00:42:37,670 --> 00:42:36,640
like the helicopters

1177
00:42:40,390 --> 00:42:37,680
had my

1178
00:42:42,470 --> 00:42:40,400
um perception been altered

1179
00:42:45,270 --> 00:42:42,480
and had something else been at that spot

1180
00:42:46,550 --> 00:42:45,280
apart from black bands and men

1181
00:42:48,150 --> 00:42:46,560
okay

1182
00:42:49,990 --> 00:42:48,160
maybe that with something else they're

1183
00:42:51,910 --> 00:42:50,000
cleaning up and we

1184
00:42:54,950 --> 00:42:51,920
if you look into this topic you'll see

1185
00:42:56,470 --> 00:42:54,960
that sometimes these things drop things

1186
00:42:58,470 --> 00:42:56,480
like metals

1187
00:43:00,950 --> 00:42:58,480
and white powders

1188
00:43:02,950 --> 00:43:00,960
and things like that and then teams have

1189
00:43:05,190 --> 00:43:02,960
been reported to have gone in and

1190
00:43:06,230 --> 00:43:05,200
cleaned up those areas

1191
00:43:08,470 --> 00:43:06,240
okay

1192
00:43:09,670 --> 00:43:08,480
so

1193
00:43:13,349 --> 00:43:09,680
basically

1194
00:43:17,349 --> 00:43:14,950
have i been messed with against my

1195
00:43:20,230 --> 00:43:17,359
perception being altered

1196
00:43:22,390 --> 00:43:20,240
and these were not really made at all

1197
00:43:24,470 --> 00:43:22,400
okay because there was no way anyone was

1198
00:43:25,270 --> 00:43:24,480
able to go out there

1199
00:43:27,349 --> 00:43:25,280
okay

1200
00:43:29,349 --> 00:43:27,359
a lot the farmer hadn't anyone out there

1201
00:43:31,510 --> 00:43:29,359
so what were they we don't i don't know

1202
00:43:33,030 --> 00:43:31,520
it's pure speculation i've also been

1203
00:43:35,910 --> 00:43:33,040
told that um

1204
00:43:38,710 --> 00:43:35,920
by this sas guy who's intelligence guy

1205
00:43:42,069 --> 00:43:38,720
that the sas bases are based in wales

1206
00:43:44,150 --> 00:43:42,079
for a reason and the hint is

1207
00:43:46,550 --> 00:43:44,160
this topic

1208
00:43:48,950 --> 00:43:46,560
because wales is a hotspot

1209
00:43:52,790 --> 00:43:48,960
and you've probably um most of you

1210
00:43:55,349 --> 00:43:52,800
probably seen the penta incident

1211
00:43:57,349 --> 00:43:55,359
where you know

1212
00:43:59,109 --> 00:43:57,359
they they knew something was gonna gonna

1213
00:44:00,710 --> 00:43:59,119
arrive but i know something's gonna

1214
00:44:02,710 --> 00:44:00,720
arrive because we're in wales and things

1215
00:44:04,710 --> 00:44:02,720
are arriving all the time okay so the

1216
00:44:07,030 --> 00:44:04,720
bases are based in wales

1217
00:44:09,190 --> 00:44:07,040
and they're in triangle formation

1218
00:44:11,510 --> 00:44:09,200
because they're expecting things to

1219
00:44:13,109 --> 00:44:11,520
happen in wales and they've got a quick

1220
00:44:14,470 --> 00:44:13,119
cleanup team they've got a quick

1221
00:44:15,829 --> 00:44:14,480
reaction team

1222
00:44:17,349 --> 00:44:15,839
to be able to come and sort anything out

1223
00:44:19,510 --> 00:44:17,359
when it happens

1224
00:44:21,589 --> 00:44:19,520
that's the reason he also said that the

1225
00:44:23,510 --> 00:44:21,599
black fans if they weren't

1226
00:44:26,230 --> 00:44:23,520
something being manifested in front of

1227
00:44:28,230 --> 00:44:26,240
my perception they were sas

1228
00:44:31,589 --> 00:44:28,240
because the hint was that the the sas

1229
00:44:33,750 --> 00:44:31,599
are used as clean-up teams

1230
00:44:34,950 --> 00:44:33,760
and they go in and they collect metals

1231
00:44:38,069 --> 00:44:34,960
that are dripped

1232
00:44:42,630 --> 00:44:38,079
or being dropped or any powders

1233
00:44:48,230 --> 00:44:45,349
yeah so i didn't know who to speak to

1234
00:44:51,109 --> 00:44:48,240
um after this landed incident

1235
00:44:53,589 --> 00:44:51,119
and so i noticed i can't think we're now

1236
00:44:56,230 --> 00:44:53,599
impressed somewhere i saw that nick pope

1237
00:44:57,430 --> 00:44:56,240
who used to run the ministry of defence

1238
00:44:59,190 --> 00:44:57,440
um

1239
00:45:00,390 --> 00:44:59,200
ufo

1240
00:45:02,230 --> 00:45:00,400
project

1241
00:45:03,190 --> 00:45:02,240
investigations

1242
00:45:05,510 --> 00:45:03,200
um

1243
00:45:07,589 --> 00:45:05,520
was given out his email so i emailed him

1244
00:45:10,390 --> 00:45:07,599
i sent him all my raw pictures that i'd

1245
00:45:11,829 --> 00:45:10,400
taken that night and i i was hoping he

1246
00:45:14,150 --> 00:45:11,839
was going to come back and tell me that

1247
00:45:15,829 --> 00:45:14,160
um

1248
00:45:18,390 --> 00:45:15,839
i'll check the radar

1249
00:45:20,309 --> 00:45:18,400
you know i'll have a word for the raf so

1250
00:45:22,710 --> 00:45:20,319
i was really naive i'll be honest it was

1251
00:45:23,910 --> 00:45:22,720
early days and i literally thought he

1252
00:45:25,990 --> 00:45:23,920
was going to help me

1253
00:45:27,510 --> 00:45:26,000
and i was going to find information

1254
00:45:29,430 --> 00:45:27,520
that was very naive

1255
00:45:31,349 --> 00:45:29,440
okay

1256
00:45:33,190 --> 00:45:31,359
he was no longer involved with the

1257
00:45:34,870 --> 00:45:33,200
ministry of defence he literally said to

1258
00:45:37,990 --> 00:45:34,880
me your pictures are baffling and

1259
00:45:42,230 --> 00:45:40,550
and um unfortunately i'm no longer

1260
00:45:44,710 --> 00:45:42,240
involved with the ministry of defence so

1261
00:45:50,069 --> 00:45:44,720
i can't help you with this

1262
00:45:51,510 --> 00:45:50,079
but contact bufora before i like move on

1263
00:45:54,230 --> 00:45:51,520
um

1264
00:45:55,349 --> 00:45:54,240
where they investigate in the uk any ufo

1265
00:45:58,470 --> 00:45:55,359
incidents

1266
00:45:59,750 --> 00:45:58,480
um i contacted them i was i drew a blank

1267
00:46:01,829 --> 00:45:59,760
but then they didn't even bother coming

1268
00:46:03,349 --> 00:46:01,839
back to me i mean that really annoyed me

1269
00:46:06,150 --> 00:46:03,359
because if you know

1270
00:46:08,150 --> 00:46:06,160
you know langdon cases are beyond real

1271
00:46:09,750 --> 00:46:08,160
they they don't happen very often

1272
00:46:12,150 --> 00:46:09,760
anywhere in the world like alone in the

1273
00:46:13,990 --> 00:46:12,160
uk what we've got um bowie mountain

1274
00:46:17,190 --> 00:46:14,000
where there's a potential landing case

1275
00:46:19,270 --> 00:46:17,200
we've got um wrench and forest

1276
00:46:20,710 --> 00:46:19,280
um williams or landing case and we've

1277
00:46:21,829 --> 00:46:20,720
got mine

1278
00:46:24,470 --> 00:46:21,839
ours

1279
00:46:25,510 --> 00:46:24,480
okay on our doorstep

1280
00:46:27,910 --> 00:46:25,520
and

1281
00:46:29,270 --> 00:46:27,920
who four didn't want to know okay so i

1282
00:46:31,430 --> 00:46:29,280
didn't get anywhere with them and i've

1283
00:46:42,870 --> 00:46:31,440
never been back to them since a complete

1284
00:46:46,309 --> 00:46:44,870
okay so

1285
00:46:47,990 --> 00:46:46,319
i haven't found any of the witnesses to

1286
00:46:50,309 --> 00:46:48,000
speak to speak to there was nothing

1287
00:46:52,230 --> 00:46:50,319
reported on the team on the radio the

1288
00:46:55,990 --> 00:46:52,240
police kept on calling me back like i

1289
00:46:58,150 --> 00:46:56,000
said if i'd heard anything and anything

1290
00:47:00,309 --> 00:46:58,160
um i went on a website called above top

1291
00:47:01,510 --> 00:47:00,319
secret i didn't know where the post

1292
00:47:03,030 --> 00:47:01,520
white scene

1293
00:47:04,710 --> 00:47:03,040
didn't there wasn't anywhere in those

1294
00:47:05,430 --> 00:47:04,720
days you know where you could literally

1295
00:47:07,510 --> 00:47:05,440
just

1296
00:47:08,790 --> 00:47:07,520
send i've seen this and

1297
00:47:10,309 --> 00:47:08,800
were there any other witnesses i didn't

1298
00:47:12,870 --> 00:47:10,319
know italian one but i'll tell you the

1299
00:47:15,270 --> 00:47:12,880
world okay so i went on this stupid

1300
00:47:16,790 --> 00:47:15,280
website called above top secret and i've

1301
00:47:17,829 --> 00:47:16,800
told them all on there i showed you my

1302
00:47:20,069 --> 00:47:17,839
pictures

1303
00:47:21,990 --> 00:47:20,079
and i was getting things like um those

1304
00:47:23,270 --> 00:47:22,000
are street lights mate

1305
00:47:25,030 --> 00:47:23,280
yeah this is in the middle of the

1306
00:47:26,150 --> 00:47:25,040
marshes

1307
00:47:28,230 --> 00:47:26,160
those are street lights there were

1308
00:47:30,790 --> 00:47:28,240
street lights on the opposite coast line

1309
00:47:32,630 --> 00:47:30,800
of lanai and bowie port but

1310
00:47:34,710 --> 00:47:32,640
in the middle of the marshes there is no

1311
00:47:35,990 --> 00:47:34,720
obviously no street lights so i was

1312
00:47:37,750 --> 00:47:36,000
getting um

1313
00:47:40,150 --> 00:47:37,760
they're too good to be true or they're

1314
00:47:41,990 --> 00:47:40,160
rubbish pictures or they're overexposed

1315
00:47:43,910 --> 00:47:42,000
pictures yeah they were overexposed i

1316
00:47:45,510 --> 00:47:43,920
admit you know they were overexposed

1317
00:47:47,510 --> 00:47:45,520
because i didn't know what i was doing

1318
00:47:49,589 --> 00:47:47,520
okay

1319
00:47:51,589 --> 00:47:49,599
so i didn't anyway with them i got

1320
00:47:55,670 --> 00:47:51,599
myself off there i did post it on a

1321
00:47:57,670 --> 00:47:55,680
website called uk ufo.com uk i seem to

1322
00:47:58,870 --> 00:47:57,680
remember his name the address

1323
00:47:59,670 --> 00:47:58,880
and

1324
00:48:08,870 --> 00:47:59,680
i

1325
00:48:10,870 --> 00:48:08,880
but

1326
00:48:13,109 --> 00:48:10,880
one person said to me that they had been

1327
00:48:15,190 --> 00:48:13,119
in the area as a tourist

1328
00:48:16,870 --> 00:48:15,200
and they had seen things as that they

1329
00:48:18,790 --> 00:48:16,880
were walking their dog

1330
00:48:20,470 --> 00:48:18,800
they had seen lightsaber marshes they

1331
00:48:23,750 --> 00:48:20,480
reported and that's still on that

1332
00:48:25,349 --> 00:48:23,760
website to this day but unfortunately

1333
00:48:27,190 --> 00:48:25,359
i don't know his contact details and

1334
00:48:29,510 --> 00:48:27,200
there's no way you've contacted him so

1335
00:48:31,670 --> 00:48:29,520
again it's a dead end

1336
00:48:33,270 --> 00:48:31,680
i mean it's pretty mad i'm hoping that

1337
00:48:34,710 --> 00:48:33,280
somebody here tonight is going to say i

1338
00:48:35,990 --> 00:48:34,720
saw it all

1339
00:48:37,430 --> 00:48:36,000
yeah i'm hoping one of you is going to

1340
00:48:39,270 --> 00:48:37,440
walk up to me and say i saw it all

1341
00:48:40,710 --> 00:48:39,280
because i really need other witnesses

1342
00:48:42,470 --> 00:48:40,720
i've got pictures

1343
00:48:44,950 --> 00:48:42,480
i mean there's something missing in most

1344
00:48:46,630 --> 00:48:44,960
of the ufo cases i've got pictures i've

1345
00:48:47,510 --> 00:48:46,640
got the evidence of that side of things

1346
00:48:49,510 --> 00:48:47,520
but

1347
00:48:50,950 --> 00:48:49,520
it's just me you know my wife is not

1348
00:48:52,950 --> 00:48:50,960
interested my daughter is two at the

1349
00:48:54,950 --> 00:48:52,960
time she's not really fast class here is

1350
00:48:57,750 --> 00:48:54,960
a witness and like my wife doesn't wanna

1351
00:48:59,030 --> 00:48:57,760
know you know so she she would say yes i

1352
00:49:00,390 --> 00:48:59,040
saw something he dragged me at the

1353
00:49:02,549 --> 00:49:00,400
shower and i looked through binoculars

1354
00:49:05,190 --> 00:49:02,559
and i saw something for two seconds i

1355
00:49:07,030 --> 00:49:05,200
mean she said oh that's interesting

1356
00:49:08,390 --> 00:49:07,040
and then she carry dance you know unless

1357
00:49:10,309 --> 00:49:08,400
they're gonna come down and steal my

1358
00:49:13,670 --> 00:49:10,319
white handbags she's not interested in

1359
00:49:15,349 --> 00:49:13,680
ufos or any of us okay that is an extent

1360
00:49:17,670 --> 00:49:15,359
where she is with it and i'm completely

1361
00:49:20,069 --> 00:49:17,680
opposite i'm obsessed

1362
00:49:21,190 --> 00:49:20,079
it's become a

1363
00:49:22,390 --> 00:49:21,200
15

1364
00:49:24,470 --> 00:49:22,400
hour day

1365
00:49:27,030 --> 00:49:24,480
seven days a week

1366
00:49:30,309 --> 00:49:27,040
project of research for me i literally

1367
00:49:31,430 --> 00:49:30,319
live this topic every day a week let's

1368
00:49:33,270 --> 00:49:31,440
contact

1369
00:49:37,430 --> 00:49:33,280
all the top people and i'm involved

1370
00:49:38,950 --> 00:49:37,440
heavily i've run a podcast now um

1371
00:49:40,630 --> 00:49:38,960
and we're interviewing hopefully we're

1372
00:49:42,790 --> 00:49:40,640
interviewing the top people

1373
00:49:44,549 --> 00:49:42,800
in the topic and i got sick of basically

1374
00:49:45,589 --> 00:49:44,559
listening to other people's podcasts

1375
00:49:46,549 --> 00:49:45,599
where they were asking the wrong

1376
00:49:49,430 --> 00:49:46,559
questions

1377
00:49:51,510 --> 00:49:49,440
and you're sat there hoping they're

1378
00:49:53,750 --> 00:49:51,520
going to ask you alexander

1379
00:49:55,670 --> 00:49:53,760
what do you mean by dimensionals

1380
00:49:57,109 --> 00:49:55,680
explain what you mean by dimensionals so

1381
00:49:59,670 --> 00:49:57,119
nobody ever asks

1382
00:50:01,270 --> 00:49:59,680
questions you know i mean so i i started

1383
00:50:03,109 --> 00:50:01,280
the podcast while i didn't start i

1384
00:50:05,190 --> 00:50:03,119
joined a podcast that had been going

1385
00:50:07,829 --> 00:50:05,200
recently and we i've done about six

1386
00:50:10,829 --> 00:50:07,839
episodes so special accesspodcast.com

1387
00:50:12,390 --> 00:50:10,839
okay if anyone's interested in that

1388
00:50:17,109 --> 00:50:12,400
um

1389
00:50:21,990 --> 00:50:19,109
yeah so on this map here you can see

1390
00:50:24,549 --> 00:50:22,000
that is the gower the the the red

1391
00:50:26,710 --> 00:50:24,559
hysteria that is the magnetic anomaly

1392
00:50:29,349 --> 00:50:26,720
over the gower and swansea area i mean

1393
00:50:31,349 --> 00:50:29,359
wales is intense anyway with with

1394
00:50:34,549 --> 00:50:31,359
we're criss-crossed with lay lines but

1395
00:50:36,710 --> 00:50:34,559
magnetic anomalies as well and the gower

1396
00:50:38,470 --> 00:50:36,720
in the very spot where the arrow is

1397
00:50:40,309 --> 00:50:38,480
where i was living is the most intensive

1398
00:50:42,870 --> 00:50:40,319
place in wales if not one of the most

1399
00:50:45,270 --> 00:50:42,880
intensive areas in the uk so

1400
00:50:46,790 --> 00:50:45,280
i speculate obviously but i think that

1401
00:50:48,870 --> 00:50:46,800
that might have something to do with the

1402
00:50:51,589 --> 00:50:48,880
fact that i was seeing so many objects

1403
00:50:53,750 --> 00:50:51,599
when i was living at that location

1404
00:50:55,349 --> 00:50:53,760
they were literally it was all the time

1405
00:50:56,630 --> 00:50:55,359
i mean i see things

1406
00:50:58,630 --> 00:50:56,640
sometimes every couple of weeks

1407
00:51:00,470 --> 00:50:58,640
sometimes every couple days down there

1408
00:51:01,829 --> 00:51:00,480
it's every other day

1409
00:51:03,030 --> 00:51:01,839
okay

1410
00:51:05,030 --> 00:51:03,040
you really

1411
00:51:06,309 --> 00:51:05,040
if you're interested in this topic

1412
00:51:08,150 --> 00:51:06,319
and you get to see these things that

1413
00:51:09,910 --> 00:51:08,160
you've got that on your doorstep because

1414
00:51:12,069 --> 00:51:09,920
you can literally go do a good day in

1415
00:51:14,870 --> 00:51:12,079
your room we do have there's quite a few

1416
00:51:19,190 --> 00:51:17,030
from that area over the years you know

1417
00:51:33,720 --> 00:51:19,200
yeah it's all right

1418
00:51:37,589 --> 00:51:35,349
[Music]

1419
00:51:39,910 --> 00:51:37,599
yeah people get annoyed with me that i

1420
00:51:42,270 --> 00:51:39,920
don't take pictures i mean i had an

1421
00:51:44,710 --> 00:51:42,280
incident on christmas day

1422
00:51:46,710 --> 00:51:44,720
a couple of years ago now on christmas

1423
00:51:48,069 --> 00:51:46,720
day looking back from family for

1424
00:51:50,069 --> 00:51:48,079
christmas lunch

1425
00:51:52,470 --> 00:51:50,079
and my wife and my daughter in the car

1426
00:51:53,430 --> 00:51:52,480
and we get about a mile from home

1427
00:51:55,589 --> 00:51:53,440
and

1428
00:51:56,950 --> 00:51:55,599
my daughter says again my daughter my

1429
00:51:59,349 --> 00:51:56,960
daughter can see these things just like

1430
00:52:00,870 --> 00:51:59,359
me she sees them all the time as well

1431
00:52:03,349 --> 00:52:00,880
she points out the window says one of

1432
00:52:06,150 --> 00:52:03,359
those dads and there are three giant

1433
00:52:08,230 --> 00:52:06,160
orange orbs in the sky just above the

1434
00:52:10,150 --> 00:52:08,240
road um

1435
00:52:12,470 --> 00:52:10,160
right in front of us just sat there it's

1436
00:52:14,150 --> 00:52:12,480
not moving at all about the size of a

1437
00:52:16,069 --> 00:52:14,160
hotter air balloon

1438
00:52:17,510 --> 00:52:16,079
and again my wife's not interested but

1439
00:52:19,109 --> 00:52:17,520
everyone's going nuts with me why didn't

1440
00:52:21,030 --> 00:52:19,119
you stop the car and take pictures well

1441
00:52:22,069 --> 00:52:21,040
i see them all the time

1442
00:52:26,390 --> 00:52:22,079
it's not

1443
00:52:29,510 --> 00:52:26,400
i see those orange three orange jobs

1444
00:52:31,589 --> 00:52:29,520
every three or three or four months

1445
00:52:32,870 --> 00:52:31,599
always around

1446
00:52:34,309 --> 00:52:32,880
they don't do anything and they don't

1447
00:52:36,470 --> 00:52:34,319
tell me anything they don't give me a

1448
00:52:39,030 --> 00:52:36,480
download and there's no messages

1449
00:52:40,470 --> 00:52:39,040
so it's uh it's just a normal

1450
00:52:42,630 --> 00:52:40,480
thing for me

1451
00:52:44,150 --> 00:52:42,640
okay i stopped taking pictures after the

1452
00:52:47,030 --> 00:52:44,160
garage and all the abuse i took to be

1453
00:52:49,190 --> 00:52:47,040
quite honest with you i took so much

1454
00:52:50,950 --> 00:52:49,200
peace you know i really didn't want to

1455
00:52:53,349 --> 00:52:50,960
be in the topic i concentrated on my

1456
00:52:54,870 --> 00:52:53,359
family life and my business and i i

1457
00:52:56,150 --> 00:52:54,880
literally got out of this topic and it

1458
00:52:58,630 --> 00:52:56,160
was only the limits thing that brought

1459
00:53:01,190 --> 00:52:58,640
me back out and just bought camera now a

1460
00:53:02,470 --> 00:53:01,200
new cyanx color night vision camera i

1461
00:53:04,150 --> 00:53:02,480
mean that i bought i had that for

1462
00:53:06,870 --> 00:53:04,160
christmas off my wife

1463
00:53:10,069 --> 00:53:06,880
it rained this christmas just gone it

1464
00:53:12,230 --> 00:53:10,079
rained until the 7th of january okay

1465
00:53:13,589 --> 00:53:12,240
where it works okay

1466
00:53:15,910 --> 00:53:13,599
or it was cloudy so i didn't get

1467
00:53:18,309 --> 00:53:15,920
exercise until the 7th of january

1468
00:53:21,510 --> 00:53:18,319
literally turned the dial

1469
00:53:23,109 --> 00:53:21,520
to record put it up to my eyeball

1470
00:53:25,430 --> 00:53:23,119
okay

1471
00:53:27,109 --> 00:53:25,440
took three seconds and i had an orb you

1472
00:53:28,230 --> 00:53:27,119
know mike's got the pictures the video

1473
00:53:30,150 --> 00:53:28,240
of the orc

1474
00:53:33,190 --> 00:53:30,160
straight away it was

1475
00:53:34,549 --> 00:53:33,200
it wasn't on flight radar it wasn't on

1476
00:53:36,470 --> 00:53:34,559
satellite

1477
00:53:37,990 --> 00:53:36,480
trackers apps

1478
00:53:41,349 --> 00:53:38,000
and there's no sounds there was

1479
00:53:42,549 --> 00:53:41,359
intermittent flashing not like a plane

1480
00:53:44,870 --> 00:53:42,559
and you couldn't see it with the naked

1481
00:53:47,510 --> 00:53:44,880
eye i could only see it with the camera

1482
00:53:48,950 --> 00:53:47,520
okay so i would suggest anyone if you've

1483
00:53:50,790 --> 00:53:48,960
got a budget and you can afford to get

1484
00:53:53,750 --> 00:53:50,800
yourself one of these cyanx night vision

1485
00:53:56,230 --> 00:53:53,760
cameras they're only about 350 quid

1486
00:53:58,150 --> 00:53:56,240
well worth it trust me because

1487
00:54:00,390 --> 00:53:58,160
quite a few things i've recorded and i

1488
00:54:02,790 --> 00:54:00,400
recorded i'm going off what i'm telling

1489
00:54:05,030 --> 00:54:02,800
you here but i recorded

1490
00:54:07,670 --> 00:54:05,040
only um it was about two months ago what

1491
00:54:10,069 --> 00:54:07,680
did i tell you about this

1492
00:54:11,670 --> 00:54:10,079
few months ago okay so i go outside and

1493
00:54:13,829 --> 00:54:11,680
i just see these things when i go

1494
00:54:16,470 --> 00:54:13,839
outside and sorry and when i go outside

1495
00:54:18,069 --> 00:54:16,480
and i look try and see these things i

1496
00:54:20,470 --> 00:54:18,079
will see nothing

1497
00:54:23,109 --> 00:54:20,480
okay when i really go and look i will

1498
00:54:25,990 --> 00:54:23,119
see absolutely nothing it's pointlessly

1499
00:54:28,069 --> 00:54:26,000
going out on night watches and things

1500
00:54:29,750 --> 00:54:28,079
like that because it won't happen for me

1501
00:54:32,470 --> 00:54:29,760
okay it's when i it's when i go outside

1502
00:54:34,230 --> 00:54:32,480
with my dogs and i'm blasphemy

1503
00:54:35,670 --> 00:54:34,240
and

1504
00:54:37,670 --> 00:54:35,680
that's when it happens you know if i'm

1505
00:54:39,430 --> 00:54:37,680
taking rubbish eggs and i look up i'll

1506
00:54:41,270 --> 00:54:39,440
just spot something i'll be sat in my

1507
00:54:42,470 --> 00:54:41,280
office in the house and i'll see a tic

1508
00:54:44,470 --> 00:54:42,480
tac

1509
00:54:46,470 --> 00:54:44,480
i don't know

1510
00:54:49,349 --> 00:54:46,480
just fly past the room

1511
00:54:50,950 --> 00:54:49,359
i'm gonna and i'll run outside

1512
00:54:53,030 --> 00:54:50,960
you're always too late i've been trying

1513
00:54:54,470 --> 00:54:53,040
to capture things to prove that i see

1514
00:54:57,349 --> 00:54:54,480
things but you're always too late when

1515
00:55:00,150 --> 00:54:57,359
you get outside anyway two months back

1516
00:55:01,349 --> 00:55:00,160
um i'm outside with my dogs

1517
00:55:04,390 --> 00:55:01,359
and

1518
00:55:06,230 --> 00:55:04,400
a giant red orb goes right over the top

1519
00:55:08,150 --> 00:55:06,240
of my head

1520
00:55:10,150 --> 00:55:08,160
it's clad level and the cloud level is

1521
00:55:12,309 --> 00:55:10,160
really low this thing is below the cloud

1522
00:55:13,750 --> 00:55:12,319
level it's massive it's like the orange

1523
00:55:15,190 --> 00:55:13,760
orb that i've showed you earlier but

1524
00:55:16,950 --> 00:55:15,200
it's bright red

1525
00:55:18,789 --> 00:55:16,960
for some reason though last in the last

1526
00:55:20,470 --> 00:55:18,799
six months they seem to change color on

1527
00:55:22,470 --> 00:55:20,480
me they've always been arranged but all

1528
00:55:25,190 --> 00:55:22,480
of a sudden i'm seeing giant white ones

1529
00:55:26,069 --> 00:55:25,200
and giant red ones now okay so anyways

1530
00:55:30,630 --> 00:55:26,079
this

1531
00:55:32,150 --> 00:55:30,640
red orb goes over i run inside i grab my

1532
00:55:34,309 --> 00:55:32,160
night vision camera

1533
00:55:35,990 --> 00:55:34,319
and i start filming and i've watched so

1534
00:55:37,990 --> 00:55:36,000
many videos now where i get annoyed with

1535
00:55:39,430 --> 00:55:38,000
people because they don't show the scale

1536
00:55:41,589 --> 00:55:39,440
they don't talk

1537
00:55:43,750 --> 00:55:41,599
you know i mean this thing's got gps on

1538
00:55:45,430 --> 00:55:43,760
it it's got everything you need but i

1539
00:55:48,150 --> 00:55:45,440
talked my way through this i'm making

1540
00:55:50,470 --> 00:55:48,160
sure everything was working perfectly it

1541
00:55:51,349 --> 00:55:50,480
was it was an oh my god moment almost as

1542
00:55:53,910 --> 00:55:51,359
good as

1543
00:55:56,309 --> 00:55:53,920
the gower blandly more incident an

1544
00:55:58,309 --> 00:55:56,319
amazing object huge

1545
00:55:59,910 --> 00:55:58,319
i could see the red coming off it going

1546
00:56:01,750 --> 00:55:59,920
on to the clouds of birth reflecting

1547
00:56:03,190 --> 00:56:01,760
onto the clouds at birth i'm filming it

1548
00:56:05,589 --> 00:56:03,200
all

1549
00:56:07,270 --> 00:56:05,599
the cows i mean i'm on a farm

1550
00:56:09,430 --> 00:56:07,280
and the cows are all getting really

1551
00:56:11,349 --> 00:56:09,440
agitated all around me moving and

1552
00:56:13,430 --> 00:56:11,359
running around like lunatics

1553
00:56:15,109 --> 00:56:13,440
again i filmed that

1554
00:56:16,870 --> 00:56:15,119
so i capture this thing so it's only

1555
00:56:18,950 --> 00:56:16,880
going swimming it gave me time literally

1556
00:56:20,390 --> 00:56:18,960
to go and get my camera i came back out

1557
00:56:21,270 --> 00:56:20,400
and start filming

1558
00:56:23,430 --> 00:56:21,280
and

1559
00:56:25,910 --> 00:56:23,440
it moves towards the hill just in front

1560
00:56:28,630 --> 00:56:25,920
of my house and it lands on hillside and

1561
00:56:31,270 --> 00:56:28,640
i've got it all absolutely perfectly all

1562
00:56:32,950 --> 00:56:31,280
scaled up all spoken in

1563
00:56:34,630 --> 00:56:32,960
just all this

1564
00:56:36,470 --> 00:56:34,640
description you want

1565
00:56:38,309 --> 00:56:36,480
in one of these videos

1566
00:56:39,990 --> 00:56:38,319
and then to be honest i get bored it's

1567
00:56:41,190 --> 00:56:40,000
sat on the hillside and like i said i

1568
00:56:43,349 --> 00:56:41,200
see these things all the time so i got

1569
00:56:45,109 --> 00:56:43,359
bored i turned off my camera

1570
00:56:46,710 --> 00:56:45,119
and i think i'll go inside now take the

1571
00:56:47,990 --> 00:56:46,720
dogs back in i'll watch it i'll put it

1572
00:56:49,829 --> 00:56:48,000
on the big tv

1573
00:56:52,069 --> 00:56:49,839
i go back inside

1574
00:56:53,109 --> 00:56:52,079
and what happens next is what always

1575
00:56:54,470 --> 00:56:53,119
happens

1576
00:56:56,789 --> 00:56:54,480
when you try and film these things

1577
00:56:59,589 --> 00:56:56,799
there's nothing on

1578
00:57:01,109 --> 00:56:59,599
okay the sd card i was lucky i had

1579
00:57:03,030 --> 00:57:01,119
downloaded the other things that i've

1580
00:57:04,710 --> 00:57:03,040
been filming over the last previous few

1581
00:57:06,470 --> 00:57:04,720
weeks i've downloaded them a few days

1582
00:57:08,069 --> 00:57:06,480
previous

1583
00:57:09,109 --> 00:57:08,079
they were all still on the sd card at

1584
00:57:11,270 --> 00:57:09,119
that point

1585
00:57:13,670 --> 00:57:11,280
i filmed this thing i come back inside

1586
00:57:15,990 --> 00:57:13,680
my sd card is now blank none of those

1587
00:57:17,829 --> 00:57:16,000
other previous videos are now on there

1588
00:57:18,789 --> 00:57:17,839
and nor is this object that i've just

1589
00:57:19,750 --> 00:57:18,799
done

1590
00:57:21,030 --> 00:57:19,760
okay

1591
00:57:23,270 --> 00:57:21,040
that's the sort of thing that happens

1592
00:57:24,829 --> 00:57:23,280
when you try in when you get the most

1593
00:57:27,670 --> 00:57:24,839
amazing

1594
00:57:28,630 --> 00:57:27,680
sighting they won't let you film

1595
00:57:30,630 --> 00:57:28,640
okay

1596
00:57:32,789 --> 00:57:30,640
it's like people say why are these

1597
00:57:34,710 --> 00:57:32,799
things fuzzy when you take a picture

1598
00:57:35,910 --> 00:57:34,720
it's like they're in between dimensions

1599
00:57:37,349 --> 00:57:35,920
or something

1600
00:57:38,549 --> 00:57:37,359
that's the reason why you can't take a

1601
00:57:39,750 --> 00:57:38,559
good picture of these things when

1602
00:57:41,349 --> 00:57:39,760
they've come

1603
00:57:43,109 --> 00:57:41,359
from the dimension if that's what's

1604
00:57:44,309 --> 00:57:43,119
going on and come through then you've

1605
00:57:45,910 --> 00:57:44,319
got a chance

1606
00:57:47,349 --> 00:57:45,920
trouble is when you get that chance they

1607
00:57:49,190 --> 00:57:47,359
don't let you have that chance they

1608
00:57:50,549 --> 00:57:49,200
don't let you take a picture your camera

1609
00:57:52,470 --> 00:57:50,559
will be blank

1610
00:57:54,150 --> 00:57:52,480
that's what happens

1611
00:57:57,670 --> 00:57:54,160
i've had that's happened a lot of times

1612
00:57:58,870 --> 00:57:57,680
i tried for a good few weeks after the

1613
00:58:00,230 --> 00:57:58,880
day when i was trying to take more

1614
00:58:01,349 --> 00:58:00,240
pictures because i'm still seeing these

1615
00:58:02,710 --> 00:58:01,359
things

1616
00:58:07,430 --> 00:58:02,720
anyway

1617
00:58:12,069 --> 00:58:09,990
okay so on the friday we go back to the

1618
00:58:13,510 --> 00:58:12,079
landing on a friday i phoned everyone i

1619
00:58:16,150 --> 00:58:13,520
didn't get anywhere

1620
00:58:17,190 --> 00:58:16,160
and just have my normal dates work

1621
00:58:22,630 --> 00:58:17,200
and

1622
00:58:25,589 --> 00:58:22,640
there my wife's gone shopping with my

1623
00:58:26,950 --> 00:58:25,599
daughter into the phone athlete and i

1624
00:58:28,549 --> 00:58:26,960
think i cut the grass and i'm going

1625
00:58:31,109 --> 00:58:28,559
across the

1626
00:58:33,030 --> 00:58:31,119
driveway and i'm a robot lawn mower and

1627
00:58:35,589 --> 00:58:33,040
driving my robot lawnmower across the

1628
00:58:37,829 --> 00:58:35,599
drive and i've glanced to my left which

1629
00:58:40,470 --> 00:58:37,839
is the newport direction

1630
00:58:42,950 --> 00:58:40,480
and the same emerald colored craft that

1631
00:58:45,270 --> 00:58:42,960
had come in from the sea

1632
00:58:47,030 --> 00:58:45,280
on a thursday and collected this object

1633
00:58:50,390 --> 00:58:47,040
and taken over sea is now coming towards

1634
00:58:53,109 --> 00:58:50,400
my case from the newport direction okay

1635
00:58:55,670 --> 00:58:53,119
not that high up only a few hundred feet

1636
00:58:58,630 --> 00:58:55,680
and it literally comes in very very very

1637
00:59:00,549 --> 00:58:58,640
slowly and stops right in front of me

1638
00:59:02,390 --> 00:59:00,559
right above my house my hand my house is

1639
00:59:04,470 --> 00:59:02,400
a barn conversion right in the middle of

1640
00:59:06,470 --> 00:59:04,480
the bottom conversion i'm here and this

1641
00:59:09,349 --> 00:59:06,480
thing is literally

1642
00:59:12,069 --> 00:59:09,359
and it's like um an emerald

1643
00:59:13,510 --> 00:59:12,079
as in like a jewel emerald emerald color

1644
00:59:14,870 --> 00:59:13,520
an emerald shape but it was

1645
00:59:15,829 --> 00:59:14,880
shape-shifting

1646
00:59:19,430 --> 00:59:15,839
they were

1647
00:59:22,069 --> 00:59:19,440
moving around it's like a light

1648
00:59:23,990 --> 00:59:22,079
shifting okay but like like panels it's

1649
00:59:25,670 --> 00:59:24,000
the only way i can describe it

1650
00:59:27,109 --> 00:59:25,680
there was no sound

1651
00:59:29,349 --> 00:59:27,119
there was no um

1652
00:59:31,030 --> 00:59:29,359
static in the air or anything like that

1653
00:59:32,630 --> 00:59:31,040
but people have reported things like

1654
00:59:34,470 --> 00:59:32,640
that um

1655
00:59:36,390 --> 00:59:34,480
it was literally just there

1656
00:59:37,829 --> 00:59:36,400
so i'm looking at this open mouth

1657
00:59:39,910 --> 00:59:37,839
thinking oh my god you know what's going

1658
00:59:41,910 --> 00:59:39,920
to happen next and it shoots into the

1659
00:59:43,750 --> 00:59:41,920
middle of the locker estuary straight

1660
00:59:46,069 --> 00:59:43,760
down the length of my house straight

1661
00:59:48,150 --> 00:59:46,079
into the middle of the stream like blink

1662
00:59:50,150 --> 00:59:48,160
bump into the middle and then it takes

1663
00:59:52,950 --> 00:59:50,160
an immediate

1664
00:59:55,270 --> 00:59:52,960
left turn out to see

1665
00:59:57,270 --> 00:59:55,280
there's no banking like a plane

1666
00:59:59,349 --> 00:59:57,280
this thing literally went boom boom

1667
01:00:00,789 --> 00:59:59,359
straight out to sea okay

1668
01:00:01,829 --> 01:00:00,799
no sound

1669
01:00:03,589 --> 01:00:01,839
um

1670
01:00:04,950 --> 01:00:03,599
and as i'm watching that open mouth and

1671
01:00:07,030 --> 01:00:04,960
seeing it going into the distance and

1672
01:00:08,309 --> 01:00:07,040
like pinned oh my god i can't believe

1673
01:00:09,430 --> 01:00:08,319
i've just seen this now it's happening

1674
01:00:11,750 --> 01:00:09,440
again

1675
01:00:15,270 --> 01:00:11,760
there's a whoosh behind me i've got my

1676
01:00:20,390 --> 01:00:17,910
um two fighter jets

1677
01:00:22,710 --> 01:00:20,400
literally the same height of this object

1678
01:00:25,030 --> 01:00:22,720
of being this animal's object

1679
01:00:27,109 --> 01:00:25,040
knocked me off my feet i'm now on floor

1680
01:00:29,670 --> 01:00:27,119
on top of the lawnmower

1681
01:00:31,670 --> 01:00:29,680
looking at as two fighter jets take

1682
01:00:33,430 --> 01:00:31,680
exactly the same path

1683
01:00:35,109 --> 01:00:33,440
of this green object going out to see

1684
01:00:36,710 --> 01:00:35,119
they were literally chasing it but the

1685
01:00:38,150 --> 01:00:36,720
difference is they took the same path

1686
01:00:39,750 --> 01:00:38,160
out to the middle of the x3 then turned

1687
01:00:42,470 --> 01:00:39,760
left but they banked

1688
01:00:46,230 --> 01:00:42,480
okay just like normal aircraft do but

1689
01:00:47,510 --> 01:00:46,240
again i'm on my own my wife

1690
01:00:49,349 --> 01:00:47,520
wouldn't imagine she'd been there anyway

1691
01:00:50,390 --> 01:00:49,359
like a second night just but she wasn't

1692
01:00:52,069 --> 01:00:50,400
there

1693
01:00:54,390 --> 01:00:52,079
and um

1694
01:00:57,109 --> 01:00:54,400
no witness apart from me there's nothing

1695
01:00:59,349 --> 01:00:57,119
on tv there's nothing on the radio

1696
01:01:01,270 --> 01:00:59,359
and it was a complete waste of time me

1697
01:01:03,109 --> 01:01:01,280
telling anyone so you know i didn't

1698
01:01:04,390 --> 01:01:03,119
really tell anyone about that i said it

1699
01:01:08,870 --> 01:01:04,400
was a

1700
01:01:16,549 --> 01:01:12,950
on the sunday the very next day now

1701
01:01:18,870 --> 01:01:16,559
um we used to go up to my wife's

1702
01:01:20,309 --> 01:01:18,880
uh parents for sunday lunch

1703
01:01:22,470 --> 01:01:20,319
every sunday

1704
01:01:25,270 --> 01:01:22,480
and she they lived in canberra so we

1705
01:01:27,109 --> 01:01:25,280
traveled up from gower and we get to the

1706
01:01:28,069 --> 01:01:27,119
fire station traffic lights in the

1707
01:01:29,430 --> 01:01:28,079
middle of

1708
01:01:30,950 --> 01:01:29,440
combran

1709
01:01:32,309 --> 01:01:30,960
and i'm at the front of the traffic

1710
01:01:33,990 --> 01:01:32,319
lights and because i've seen these

1711
01:01:36,069 --> 01:01:34,000
things over the last few days i'm

1712
01:01:40,470 --> 01:01:36,079
obsessed on looking at every opportunity

1713
01:01:44,630 --> 01:01:42,069
the lights are red

1714
01:01:46,630 --> 01:01:44,640
i'm up front i look to my right and

1715
01:01:49,910 --> 01:01:46,640
there's a disc

1716
01:01:51,190 --> 01:01:49,920
a disc a bobber style disc that everyone

1717
01:01:55,349 --> 01:01:51,200
you know when they talk about flying

1718
01:01:58,470 --> 01:01:55,359
saucers exactly i saw okay it was a dull

1719
01:01:59,990 --> 01:01:58,480
um grey metal disc just sat in the sky

1720
01:02:01,510 --> 01:02:00,000
there are no clouds

1721
01:02:04,390 --> 01:02:01,520
it is blue

1722
01:02:05,990 --> 01:02:04,400
skies not clouds in the sky there are

1723
01:02:07,029 --> 01:02:06,000
loads and loads of people crossing the

1724
01:02:08,150 --> 01:02:07,039
road

1725
01:02:10,309 --> 01:02:08,160
when the light

1726
01:02:11,670 --> 01:02:10,319
lights are red yeah not one person is

1727
01:02:13,589 --> 01:02:11,680
looking up

1728
01:02:15,589 --> 01:02:13,599
nobody sees a thing

1729
01:02:16,789 --> 01:02:15,599
okay and i'm getting really agitated now

1730
01:02:18,470 --> 01:02:16,799
with my wife

1731
01:02:19,750 --> 01:02:18,480
my daughter's in the back in the baby

1732
01:02:20,950 --> 01:02:19,760
seat type thing

1733
01:02:23,190 --> 01:02:20,960
and i'm getting really actually oh my

1734
01:02:25,190 --> 01:02:23,200
god here we go again you know

1735
01:02:27,349 --> 01:02:25,200
and my wife can't see it because she's

1736
01:02:28,789 --> 01:02:27,359
to my left and this thing is to my right

1737
01:02:30,069 --> 01:02:28,799
in the car

1738
01:02:32,069 --> 01:02:30,079
and

1739
01:02:33,029 --> 01:02:32,079
like i say she's gonna interest

1740
01:02:35,029 --> 01:02:33,039
anyway

1741
01:02:36,549 --> 01:02:35,039
but she's getting she's going mad with

1742
01:02:39,670 --> 01:02:36,559
me there because my daughter is crying

1743
01:02:41,829 --> 01:02:39,680
i'm shouting it's happening again

1744
01:02:44,549 --> 01:02:41,839
and she forces me literally to drive off

1745
01:02:46,390 --> 01:02:44,559
nobody has looked up at all not one

1746
01:02:48,390 --> 01:02:46,400
person has seen this disc that's not

1747
01:02:49,510 --> 01:02:48,400
very high in the sky

1748
01:02:54,230 --> 01:02:49,520
how

1749
01:02:56,789 --> 01:02:54,240
it drives me nuts it frustrates me

1750
01:02:58,390 --> 01:02:56,799
beyond me it kills me that other people

1751
01:03:00,309 --> 01:02:58,400
are not seeing these things because it

1752
01:03:01,510 --> 01:03:00,319
makes me look nurse

1753
01:03:03,990 --> 01:03:01,520
okay

1754
01:03:05,109 --> 01:03:04,000
well i got pictures sorry about that

1755
01:03:07,829 --> 01:03:05,119
okay

1756
01:03:10,549 --> 01:03:07,839
um so we we drive

1757
01:03:13,190 --> 01:03:10,559
to my wife's house i get a car

1758
01:03:14,630 --> 01:03:13,200
i point to the thing it's my wife she's

1759
01:03:16,710 --> 01:03:14,640
got an interest

1760
01:03:18,789 --> 01:03:16,720
she goes straight to the house and even

1761
01:03:22,150 --> 01:03:18,799
though she looked but it's just still

1762
01:03:26,630 --> 01:03:24,630
i go and have lunch i still sat there

1763
01:03:27,990 --> 01:03:26,640
you know because

1764
01:03:30,390 --> 01:03:28,000
i didn't have a camera with me i didn't

1765
01:03:34,309 --> 01:03:30,400
have a phone we don't spend days with it

1766
01:03:37,990 --> 01:03:36,710
so that was that was those few days

1767
01:03:42,150 --> 01:03:38,000
basically

1768
01:03:45,430 --> 01:03:42,160
in 2010 for four crazy days

1769
01:03:46,309 --> 01:03:45,440
um i can't forget

1770
01:03:48,470 --> 01:03:46,319
you know

1771
01:03:49,829 --> 01:03:48,480
and i'm obsessed trying to find

1772
01:03:51,589 --> 01:03:49,839
information about

1773
01:03:53,750 --> 01:03:51,599
innocence and everyone i show the

1774
01:03:55,430 --> 01:03:53,760
pictures too like how put off eric davis

1775
01:03:57,510 --> 01:03:55,440
they're all intrigued

1776
01:03:59,270 --> 01:03:57,520
by pictures i was at a science

1777
01:04:00,789 --> 01:03:59,280
conference with a

1778
01:04:02,069 --> 01:04:00,799
virtual science conference with them

1779
01:04:03,990 --> 01:04:02,079
recently

1780
01:04:05,990 --> 01:04:04,000
we had a full discussion on

1781
01:04:07,990 --> 01:04:06,000
um at the conference about how these

1782
01:04:10,549 --> 01:04:08,000
things are manifesting

1783
01:04:12,309 --> 01:04:10,559
you know altering our perceptions

1784
01:04:15,029 --> 01:04:12,319
i mean it might be that no because

1785
01:04:16,950 --> 01:04:15,039
nobody saw that craft the giant craft i

1786
01:04:18,549 --> 01:04:16,960
saw when i was 15 the night of the

1787
01:04:20,630 --> 01:04:18,559
triangles craft

1788
01:04:23,510 --> 01:04:20,640
nobody saw that maybe it wasn't really a

1789
01:04:25,510 --> 01:04:23,520
craft maybe this was a manifestation you

1790
01:04:26,870 --> 01:04:25,520
know i've got i've got to take this into

1791
01:04:28,630 --> 01:04:26,880
account now because this thing should

1792
01:04:30,069 --> 01:04:28,640
have been seen by the whole of wales

1793
01:04:32,069 --> 01:04:30,079
this should have been seen from newport

1794
01:04:34,470 --> 01:04:32,079
to swansea it was high enough it was big

1795
01:04:36,549 --> 01:04:34,480
enough and yet okay there was lots of

1796
01:04:38,950 --> 01:04:36,559
other craft uh reported that night but

1797
01:04:41,510 --> 01:04:38,960
nobody reported this ridiculously big

1798
01:04:43,990 --> 01:04:41,520
craft that i saw

1799
01:04:46,150 --> 01:04:44,000
i i've missed a part of that am i

1800
01:04:48,230 --> 01:04:46,160
i didn't miss a part of that as in i had

1801
01:04:50,630 --> 01:04:48,240
missing time as well

1802
01:04:55,589 --> 01:04:52,470
i found because i found myself in that

1803
01:05:00,230 --> 01:04:57,829
there was about an hour to two hours of

1804
01:05:02,309 --> 01:05:00,240
missing time that i couldn't account for

1805
01:05:03,190 --> 01:05:02,319
from i'd obviously been to school that

1806
01:05:03,910 --> 01:05:03,200
day

1807
01:05:05,910 --> 01:05:03,920
but

1808
01:05:07,829 --> 01:05:05,920
um because i'd gone and got changed i

1809
01:05:09,109 --> 01:05:07,839
wasn't in jeans and a t-shirt but it was

1810
01:05:10,630 --> 01:05:09,119
in the middle of winter you know what

1811
01:05:14,150 --> 01:05:10,640
was i doing in the middle of winter in a

1812
01:05:16,230 --> 01:05:14,160
field freezing cold at night no idea

1813
01:05:18,230 --> 01:05:16,240
you know what i was doing there

1814
01:05:34,150 --> 01:05:18,240
it was nuts

1815
01:05:39,349 --> 01:05:36,630
yeah my second question was about the

1816
01:05:41,589 --> 01:05:39,359
magnetism you mentioned earlier

1817
01:05:44,150 --> 01:05:41,599
something is going on with the birds

1818
01:05:47,349 --> 01:05:44,160
lately we have a friend that keeps the

1819
01:06:06,150 --> 01:05:47,359
price pitching send them up

1820
01:06:09,510 --> 01:06:07,829
we've had to close off areas of our

1821
01:06:12,470 --> 01:06:09,520
building today where the birds are

1822
01:06:15,270 --> 01:06:12,480
flying in and breaking the grass it's

1823
01:06:17,589 --> 01:06:15,280
really strange do you remember um a

1824
01:06:20,390 --> 01:06:17,599
few months back all those birds were

1825
01:06:21,750 --> 01:06:20,400
dead on the road

1826
01:06:24,069 --> 01:06:21,760
okay the same day

1827
01:06:25,990 --> 01:06:24,079
the same day that happened i had a load

1828
01:06:27,349 --> 01:06:26,000
of them in the in my

1829
01:06:29,990 --> 01:06:27,359
my street in i live in the middle of

1830
01:06:32,309 --> 01:06:30,000
nowhere okay but in the in on the road

1831
01:06:34,950 --> 01:06:32,319
by me hello dead birds and there were

1832
01:06:36,549 --> 01:06:34,960
thousands of the same birds in the trees

1833
01:06:39,109 --> 01:06:36,559
i've never seen before i haven't seen it

1834
01:06:41,510 --> 01:06:39,119
since but literally within two days i

1835
01:06:59,109 --> 01:06:41,520
had that going on but there was a i

1836
01:07:07,520 --> 01:07:00,870
exactly you're saying right across the

1837
01:07:11,109 --> 01:07:09,029
[Music]

1838
01:07:12,309 --> 01:07:11,119
it's not just i think it's something in

1839
01:07:13,750 --> 01:07:12,319
africans

1840
01:07:16,309 --> 01:07:13,760
flamingos

1841
01:07:18,069 --> 01:07:16,319
and there was no 5g there so it isn't

1842
01:07:19,510 --> 01:07:18,079
just something for 5g there's something

1843
01:07:20,470 --> 01:07:19,520
going on

1844
01:07:21,670 --> 01:07:20,480
yeah

1845
01:07:23,430 --> 01:07:21,680
because there was no 5g where the

1846
01:07:25,510 --> 01:07:23,440
floating goats were and they were dying

1847
01:07:55,109 --> 01:07:25,520
as well and killing them exactly the

1848
01:07:58,309 --> 01:07:56,789
i could need to drive in a shed it's

1849
01:07:59,829 --> 01:07:58,319
possible to share it

1850
01:08:02,710 --> 01:07:59,839
with you

1851
01:08:04,150 --> 01:08:02,720
as it's going it's 14 years old

1852
01:08:05,430 --> 01:08:04,160
it's a lock double the other day because

1853
01:08:06,789 --> 01:08:05,440
there's two of them in there it

1854
01:08:07,750 --> 01:08:06,799
completely shed its skin there's

1855
01:08:08,789 --> 01:08:07,760
something going on i think there's

1856
01:08:13,029 --> 01:08:08,799
something in the states and they were

1857
01:08:15,750 --> 01:08:13,039
saying about um it was uh geese or swans

1858
01:08:17,990 --> 01:08:15,760
swans wanted to drown themselves

1859
01:08:19,349 --> 01:08:18,000
because the 5g kicked in and they just

1860
01:08:21,510 --> 01:08:19,359
didn't know they just couldn't cope with

1861
01:08:23,910 --> 01:08:21,520
the neurological issues but they wanted

1862
01:08:28,789 --> 01:08:23,920
to drown themselves because it just

1863
01:08:35,269 --> 01:08:30,630
yeah that's right

1864
01:08:49,430 --> 01:08:36,550
now

1865
01:08:53,430 --> 01:08:51,349
well i think people should pay more

1866
01:08:55,110 --> 01:08:53,440
attention to experiences

1867
01:08:57,829 --> 01:08:55,120
you know real experiences people like

1868
01:08:59,669 --> 01:08:57,839
damian knott in australia

1869
01:09:01,430 --> 01:08:59,679
you should pay attention to the car you

1870
01:09:02,950 --> 01:09:01,440
know he's not getting downloads he'll

1871
01:09:04,229 --> 01:09:02,960
tell him doesn't get downloads the

1872
01:09:06,789 --> 01:09:04,239
people that say they're getting lots of

1873
01:09:08,149 --> 01:09:06,799
downloads and they're getting messages

1874
01:09:10,309 --> 01:09:08,159
i i

1875
01:09:12,309 --> 01:09:10,319
you know i'm involved in this

1876
01:09:13,669 --> 01:09:12,319
but i'm still skeptical

1877
01:09:15,990 --> 01:09:13,679
i've got to be you've got to try and

1878
01:09:17,430 --> 01:09:16,000
stay rational you've got to be plausible

1879
01:09:18,630 --> 01:09:17,440
about the sort of things that you hear

1880
01:09:21,030 --> 01:09:18,640
and you can't just

1881
01:09:23,269 --> 01:09:21,040
agree with everything you hear you know

1882
01:09:24,870 --> 01:09:23,279
and um

1883
01:09:26,390 --> 01:09:24,880
they knew not somebody you should follow

1884
01:09:30,309 --> 01:09:26,400
me

1885
01:09:32,070 --> 01:09:30,319
i interviewed damian a few months back

1886
01:09:36,349 --> 01:09:32,080
he's on my podcast special access

1887
01:09:39,910 --> 01:09:39,110
foreign good friends in australia

1888
01:09:42,550 --> 01:09:39,920
um

1889
01:09:46,309 --> 01:09:42,560
damien i identify daily basically

1890
01:09:48,309 --> 01:09:46,319
because i've never found anyone like me

1891
01:09:50,070 --> 01:09:48,319
he doesn't get downloads he doesn't get

1892
01:09:51,749 --> 01:09:50,080
messages but he sees these things all

1893
01:09:53,910 --> 01:09:51,759
the time and he's blasey about it as

1894
01:09:55,830 --> 01:09:53,920
well and he documents them now because

1895
01:09:57,270 --> 01:09:55,840
that's what he does for a living and he

1896
01:09:58,709 --> 01:09:57,280
goes outside

1897
01:10:00,550 --> 01:09:58,719
living in australia he hasn't got the

1898
01:10:02,070 --> 01:10:00,560
problem we've got tropical rainforest

1899
01:10:03,189 --> 01:10:02,080
whales here where he's constantly

1900
01:10:06,229 --> 01:10:03,199
calling me

1901
01:10:07,750 --> 01:10:06,239
and so i i imagine that if i didn't have

1902
01:10:09,510 --> 01:10:07,760
the clients above me all the time i'd

1903
01:10:11,830 --> 01:10:09,520
probably be seeing him just as often as

1904
01:10:14,390 --> 01:10:11,840
he's seen and i see him often enough

1905
01:10:16,709 --> 01:10:14,400
but he's he sees them he also gets

1906
01:10:18,470 --> 01:10:16,719
something like chris bledsoe chris is a

1907
01:10:19,669 --> 01:10:18,480
friend as well i've

1908
01:10:21,830 --> 01:10:19,679
been speaking to him for quite a few

1909
01:10:23,189 --> 01:10:21,840
years where they know when there is

1910
01:10:24,950 --> 01:10:23,199
something there

1911
01:10:27,350 --> 01:10:24,960
they know to go outside

1912
01:10:29,270 --> 01:10:27,360
at a certain time they get the sense

1913
01:10:31,350 --> 01:10:29,280
to go outside and take their camera with

1914
01:10:33,350 --> 01:10:31,360
them and when they do they know they can

1915
01:10:36,390 --> 01:10:33,360
take a picture i don't get that you know

1916
01:10:38,790 --> 01:10:36,400
i'd be honest i don't get that

1917
01:10:40,390 --> 01:10:38,800
he describes that as a

1918
01:10:41,990 --> 01:10:40,400
imagine you're in a

1919
01:10:44,149 --> 01:10:42,000
supermarket and

1920
01:10:45,590 --> 01:10:44,159
you know that somebody's looking at you

1921
01:10:48,149 --> 01:10:45,600
when you've got your back turned to them

1922
01:10:50,630 --> 01:10:48,159
you know someone's looking at you you

1923
01:10:52,070 --> 01:10:50,640
get that feeling so i can attract and

1924
01:10:53,430 --> 01:10:52,080
then then

1925
01:10:54,870 --> 01:10:53,440
i don't know are you attracting the

1926
01:10:56,709 --> 01:10:54,880
presence have you done any like

1927
01:10:59,590 --> 01:10:56,719
experiments

1928
01:11:01,189 --> 01:10:59,600
well i i know that um

1929
01:11:03,189 --> 01:11:01,199
if i wanted to attract them all i'd need

1930
01:11:04,310 --> 01:11:03,199
to do is send up fireworks believe it or

1931
01:11:05,830 --> 01:11:04,320
not

1932
01:11:07,669 --> 01:11:05,840
i discouraged when i was living down

1933
01:11:08,630 --> 01:11:07,679
here

1934
01:11:11,189 --> 01:11:08,640
on

1935
01:11:13,830 --> 01:11:11,199
so that was october november the 5th

1936
01:11:15,669 --> 01:11:13,840
then obviously a few weeks later i had

1937
01:11:17,030 --> 01:11:15,679
all the family down and we were in the

1938
01:11:19,030 --> 01:11:17,040
gardens

1939
01:11:21,590 --> 01:11:19,040
and we were overlooking by reporting for

1940
01:11:23,030 --> 01:11:21,600
an fb what cheap firewood display yeah

1941
01:11:24,950 --> 01:11:23,040
we had the best game in the world

1942
01:11:26,310 --> 01:11:24,960
everyone's fireworks where we were live

1943
01:11:27,910 --> 01:11:26,320
so we're literally in the garden of

1944
01:11:30,229 --> 01:11:27,920
barbecue and watching everyone else's

1945
01:11:33,669 --> 01:11:30,239
fireworks and i noticed that same green

1946
01:11:35,910 --> 01:11:33,679
emerald object coming in from the sea

1947
01:11:38,550 --> 01:11:35,920
okay and what they do is they literally

1948
01:11:41,270 --> 01:11:38,560
come in like a satellite and they will

1949
01:11:42,709 --> 01:11:41,280
come in nice and slow and just stop

1950
01:11:44,870 --> 01:11:42,719
and they have lots of fireworks it

1951
01:11:46,630 --> 01:11:44,880
sounds nuts i know exciting for that but

1952
01:11:48,870 --> 01:11:46,640
i've seen this now

1953
01:11:50,310 --> 01:11:48,880
um every year since if there's been a

1954
01:11:52,390 --> 01:11:50,320
fireworks play not last year because of

1955
01:11:54,149 --> 01:11:52,400
code grid but every year since

1956
01:11:55,430 --> 01:11:54,159
if i go to a firework display everyone

1957
01:11:57,030 --> 01:11:55,440
else is watching the fireworks i'm

1958
01:11:59,110 --> 01:11:57,040
watching out for when these things turn

1959
01:12:01,430 --> 01:11:59,120
up because they always turn up

1960
01:12:04,070 --> 01:12:01,440
and one of the reasons i got into damien

1961
01:12:06,390 --> 01:12:04,080
knox because i spotted he had also

1962
01:12:09,110 --> 01:12:06,400
noticed the same thing and he had

1963
01:12:11,350 --> 01:12:09,120
actually done video on it and

1964
01:12:13,830 --> 01:12:11,360
you can find that on if you go on damien

1965
01:12:15,750 --> 01:12:13,840
john not on youtube you can find the

1966
01:12:18,630 --> 01:12:15,760
video and the firework video where it

1967
01:12:24,310 --> 01:12:18,640
has been analyzed and you can't see it

1968
01:12:28,310 --> 01:12:26,310
later on this thing was literally coming

1969
01:12:31,030 --> 01:12:28,320
in shifting to the ground just like the

1970
01:12:32,630 --> 01:12:31,040
tic tacs crazy speeds shooting around

1971
01:12:35,830 --> 01:12:32,640
he's got a movie about to be released

1972
01:12:37,910 --> 01:12:35,840
about it now it's still

1973
01:12:39,669 --> 01:12:37,920
so yeah very interesting

1974
01:12:41,669 --> 01:12:39,679
even if you've got all the family around

1975
01:12:42,870 --> 01:12:41,679
you nobody else can see it only on

1976
01:12:44,870 --> 01:12:42,880
yourself

1977
01:12:46,149 --> 01:12:44,880
yeah i mean i never spoke to my um i

1978
01:12:49,350 --> 01:12:46,159
told my mum

1979
01:12:51,510 --> 01:12:49,360
my dad died a few years ago

1980
01:12:53,189 --> 01:12:51,520
but when i had that incident with the

1981
01:12:54,790 --> 01:12:53,199
nightmare triangles

1982
01:12:56,310 --> 01:12:54,800
i didn't say anything like i said i

1983
01:12:57,350 --> 01:12:56,320
couldn't wait i didn't have to tell him

1984
01:12:58,950 --> 01:12:57,360
i didn't want to get into trouble at the

1985
01:13:00,950 --> 01:12:58,960
time so i never said anything moved

1986
01:13:02,550 --> 01:13:00,960
house i didn't say anything to my

1987
01:13:04,149 --> 01:13:02,560
friends i didn't tell my family i didn't

1988
01:13:05,750 --> 01:13:04,159
see the point i thought whatever it was

1989
01:13:07,110 --> 01:13:05,760
i got away with it i don't know what

1990
01:13:09,990 --> 01:13:07,120
happened on the night because i've got

1991
01:13:11,750 --> 01:13:10,000
no memory of that day

1992
01:13:14,149 --> 01:13:11,760
up until the point where i got home i

1993
01:13:15,830 --> 01:13:14,159
had no memory the previous day either

1994
01:13:17,430 --> 01:13:15,840
you know i still haven't

1995
01:13:19,990 --> 01:13:17,440
i couldn't tell you what what happened

1996
01:13:21,830 --> 01:13:20,000
on those days um

1997
01:13:24,390 --> 01:13:21,840
but it happened you know i

1998
01:13:25,430 --> 01:13:24,400
i've got such a vivid memory of it all i

1999
01:13:27,270 --> 01:13:25,440
got

2000
01:13:29,189 --> 01:13:27,280
a really good memory of

2001
01:13:31,110 --> 01:13:29,199
the actual craft i mean it was weird

2002
01:13:34,070 --> 01:13:31,120
because it was it was like i was i was

2003
01:13:36,470 --> 01:13:34,080
away from the world

2004
01:13:38,310 --> 01:13:36,480
um it's really hard to describe if you

2005
01:13:39,030 --> 01:13:38,320
imagine everything is shut off around

2006
01:13:42,470 --> 01:13:39,040
you

2007
01:13:44,229 --> 01:13:42,480
looking at the sky and there's nothing

2008
01:13:46,070 --> 01:13:44,239
else apart from you and this thing in

2009
01:13:48,070 --> 01:13:46,080
the sky and that's what it was like it

2010
01:13:50,470 --> 01:13:48,080
was like it was a complete bubble

2011
01:13:54,630 --> 01:13:52,630
i have no idea but i did have it really

2012
01:14:06,709 --> 01:13:54,640
looks like i had missing time

2013
01:14:11,590 --> 01:14:09,270
any thoughts on i mean when we take into

2014
01:14:13,990 --> 01:14:11,600
account reports of animal

2015
01:14:17,110 --> 01:14:14,000
mutilations human ventilation phenomena

2016
01:14:21,030 --> 01:14:17,120
as well any thoughts on intents

2017
01:14:22,870 --> 01:14:21,040
uh why they hear what they're doing

2018
01:14:25,189 --> 01:14:22,880
what are the intentions

2019
01:14:37,910 --> 01:14:25,199
what do you think the outcomes will be

2020
01:14:43,990 --> 01:14:41,669
ranch where it's well known that um

2021
01:14:46,070 --> 01:14:44,000
relations are going on and they also did

2022
01:14:47,669 --> 01:14:46,080
a report the needs team did a report on

2023
01:14:49,750 --> 01:14:47,679
capital mutilations i mean they actually

2024
01:14:51,750 --> 01:14:49,760
came out and said it was

2025
01:14:53,030 --> 01:14:51,760
to do mad cow disease and they would

2026
01:14:54,830 --> 01:14:53,040
they were

2027
01:14:56,950 --> 01:14:54,840
saying that it's

2028
01:14:58,870 --> 01:14:56,960
um you know

2029
01:15:00,950 --> 01:14:58,880
they were they were making sure that uh

2030
01:15:02,390 --> 01:15:00,960
mad cow disease wasn't spreading

2031
01:15:03,830 --> 01:15:02,400
around america and that was a real

2032
01:15:05,270 --> 01:15:03,840
reason for why these things were going

2033
01:15:06,950 --> 01:15:05,280
on and it was really the government

2034
01:15:08,470 --> 01:15:06,960
doing it to be honest excuse the

2035
01:15:11,350 --> 01:15:08,480
language that's

2036
01:15:15,270 --> 01:15:13,669
i will be speaking the hell about that

2037
01:15:16,870 --> 01:15:15,280
i've got so many questions i'll send him

2038
01:15:19,510 --> 01:15:16,880
i said i tend to send him a question a

2039
01:15:21,910 --> 01:15:19,520
day you know he he normally comes back

2040
01:15:23,669 --> 01:15:21,920
with very short answers he never says

2041
01:15:25,750 --> 01:15:23,679
yes or no to anything because if he says

2042
01:15:27,590 --> 01:15:25,760
yes or no he's broken his security

2043
01:15:29,590 --> 01:15:27,600
clearances he can't say yes or no so

2044
01:15:32,310 --> 01:15:29,600
he's got to give me

2045
01:15:34,630 --> 01:15:32,320
answers without um you know so sometimes

2046
01:15:36,630 --> 01:15:34,640
i have to go back and forth all the time

2047
01:15:38,790 --> 01:15:36,640
with these questions trying to get some

2048
01:15:39,830 --> 01:15:38,800
sort of idea of what it really means you

2049
01:15:41,270 --> 01:15:39,840
know but

2050
01:15:42,630 --> 01:15:41,280
sometimes it gets better than i just

2051
01:15:44,950 --> 01:15:42,640
said

2052
01:15:46,709 --> 01:15:44,960
do you also consider that this carbon

2053
01:15:48,310 --> 01:15:46,719
mutilation phenomena has been going on

2054
01:15:51,030 --> 01:15:48,320
for like decades

2055
01:15:52,709 --> 01:15:51,040
not one person has ever been indicted

2056
01:15:54,870 --> 01:15:52,719
yeah on

2057
01:15:56,709 --> 01:15:54,880
these issues exactly one person and it's

2058
01:15:58,950 --> 01:15:56,719
going on in wales as well

2059
01:16:00,630 --> 01:15:58,960
we've got mid whales with the sheep and

2060
01:16:02,070 --> 01:16:00,640
i try and tell people that's why i'm

2061
01:16:04,229 --> 01:16:02,080
trying to do the international side of

2062
01:16:07,750 --> 01:16:04,239
this because wales is not known

2063
01:16:09,750 --> 01:16:07,760
as a hot spot for ufos at all you know

2064
01:16:11,030 --> 01:16:09,760
it's known for a slot in this room we

2065
01:16:12,870 --> 01:16:11,040
all know it is

2066
01:16:14,870 --> 01:16:12,880
try telling the rest of the world most

2067
01:16:17,750 --> 01:16:14,880
americans don't even know what wales is

2068
01:16:19,430 --> 01:16:17,760
okay they haven't got a clue so i'm and

2069
01:16:21,910 --> 01:16:19,440
that's what i'm i'm trying to push and

2070
01:16:23,030 --> 01:16:21,920
that's why i'm joined with the supern

2071
01:16:25,030 --> 01:16:23,040
team and

2072
01:16:26,709 --> 01:16:25,040
as far as like that's what i'm trying to

2073
01:16:28,790 --> 01:16:26,719
do the international side of things i'll

2074
01:16:31,510 --> 01:16:28,800
be doing a free

2075
01:16:33,350 --> 01:16:31,520
freedom information requests

2076
01:16:35,270 --> 01:16:33,360
that sort of thing with the team and i'd

2077
01:16:37,110 --> 01:16:35,280
be going out to the local area i'm

2078
01:16:39,110 --> 01:16:37,120
trying to find my daughter's off school

2079
01:16:41,110 --> 01:16:39,120
that's why i've done that

2080
01:16:42,149 --> 01:16:41,120
that casey keeps pushing me towards

2081
01:16:43,830 --> 01:16:42,159
england but

2082
01:16:46,310 --> 01:16:43,840
as soon as she's back in back in school

2083
01:16:47,750 --> 01:16:46,320
i got to go and get out there and

2084
01:16:50,229 --> 01:16:47,760
meet some people

2085
01:16:52,709 --> 01:16:50,239
yeah so i mean cat mutilations are

2086
01:16:53,830 --> 01:16:52,719
worldwide been going on forever

2087
01:16:55,189 --> 01:16:53,840
um

2088
01:16:56,950 --> 01:16:55,199
and who knows what they're what that

2089
01:16:59,189 --> 01:16:56,960
that's about is it a psychological thing

2090
01:17:00,870 --> 01:16:59,199
where they they're trying to mess with

2091
01:17:02,709 --> 01:17:00,880
you trying to mess with your brain what

2092
01:17:04,630 --> 01:17:02,719
are they doing to our animals

2093
01:17:05,830 --> 01:17:04,640
we we saw what they did with bulls when

2094
01:17:07,750 --> 01:17:05,840
they put them in the container at the

2095
01:17:09,350 --> 01:17:07,760
skiing walker ranch you know in a

2096
01:17:10,790 --> 01:17:09,360
container where the door wasn't even big

2097
01:17:13,910 --> 01:17:10,800
enough to get them to fit through the

2098
01:17:15,590 --> 01:17:13,920
door and yet six six balls are inside

2099
01:17:17,830 --> 01:17:15,600
this container

2100
01:17:20,149 --> 01:17:17,840
crazy you know what are they doing there

2101
01:17:21,830 --> 01:17:20,159
again is that psychological

2102
01:17:22,550 --> 01:17:21,840
this is we can do anything to you type

2103
01:17:30,310 --> 01:17:22,560
thing

2104
01:17:34,870 --> 01:17:32,149
probably everyone else knows that you

2105
01:17:37,350 --> 01:17:34,880
mentioned downloads what does that mean

2106
01:17:39,270 --> 01:17:37,360
well if you if you watch people like um

2107
01:17:43,470 --> 01:17:39,280
grant cam and grant cameron will always

2108
01:17:43,480 --> 01:17:51,030
[Music]

2109
01:17:55,270 --> 01:17:52,870
he gets downloads

2110
01:17:57,270 --> 01:17:55,280
he gets information things he should be

2111
01:17:58,870 --> 01:17:57,280
researching and then he'll write a book

2112
01:18:00,790 --> 01:17:58,880
about our topic because

2113
01:18:03,030 --> 01:18:00,800
he thinks he's being given inspiration

2114
01:18:04,310 --> 01:18:03,040
to write about that topic yeah and he

2115
01:18:07,669 --> 01:18:04,320
feels that he's then going to spread the

2116
01:18:10,630 --> 01:18:07,679
word about that topic he does things on

2117
01:18:12,709 --> 01:18:10,640
he thinks music is really really

2118
01:18:15,350 --> 01:18:12,719
involved

2119
01:18:17,510 --> 01:18:15,360
people write songs based on what they

2120
01:18:18,870 --> 01:18:17,520
say are downloads you know the words of

2121
01:18:20,470 --> 01:18:18,880
the song would be

2122
01:18:22,149 --> 01:18:20,480
really important like stay away to

2123
01:18:22,950 --> 01:18:22,159
heaven and things like that songs like

2124
01:18:25,750 --> 01:18:22,960
that

2125
01:18:27,270 --> 01:18:25,760
were written after a download apparently

2126
01:18:29,590 --> 01:18:27,280
i mean there are people like timothy

2127
01:18:30,630 --> 01:18:29,600
taylor you know anyone's here has heard

2128
01:18:32,470 --> 01:18:30,640
of um

2129
01:18:34,630 --> 01:18:32,480
diana pasalka and she wrote a book

2130
01:18:36,149 --> 01:18:34,640
called american cosmic

2131
01:18:38,709 --> 01:18:36,159
and there's a person in there in the

2132
01:18:41,350 --> 01:18:38,719
book called tyler well tyler's real name

2133
01:18:44,229 --> 01:18:41,360
is timothy taylor i research this guy

2134
01:18:46,310 --> 01:18:44,239
he's he's a almost a billionaire and

2135
01:18:48,630 --> 01:18:46,320
he's got most of his money from

2136
01:18:49,590 --> 01:18:48,640
downloads he gets downloads on medical

2137
01:18:51,510 --> 01:18:49,600
products

2138
01:18:53,910 --> 01:18:51,520
and then he goes and does a

2139
01:18:56,630 --> 01:18:53,920
patents those products and he's made an

2140
01:18:59,270 --> 01:18:56,640
absolute fortune he works with nasa he

2141
01:19:01,030 --> 01:18:59,280
works with spacex he finances his

2142
01:19:03,510 --> 01:19:01,040
medical company

2143
01:19:04,229 --> 01:19:03,520
crazy i mean he is really involved in

2144
01:19:07,350 --> 01:19:04,239
the

2145
01:19:09,750 --> 01:19:07,360
are

2146
01:19:12,229 --> 01:19:09,760
he's involved in with eric davis at

2147
01:19:14,950 --> 01:19:12,239
aerial space court he works there and a

2148
01:19:16,390 --> 01:19:14,960
number of other places um really really

2149
01:19:18,470 --> 01:19:16,400
interesting guy if you want to research

2150
01:19:19,830 --> 01:19:18,480
something

2151
01:19:25,669 --> 01:19:19,840
he's got about 40

2152
01:19:29,270 --> 01:19:27,189
like with the downloads and stuff and

2153
01:19:31,830 --> 01:19:29,280
it's on the channeling and everything

2154
01:19:33,590 --> 01:19:31,840
and it's like uh to do the tesla as well

2155
01:19:34,709 --> 01:19:33,600
like i have done with anything on my

2156
01:19:49,030 --> 01:19:34,719
channel

2157
01:19:52,550 --> 01:19:50,870
he would read internet then it's just

2158
01:19:53,430 --> 01:19:52,560
for that person

2159
01:19:56,550 --> 01:19:53,440
as well

2160
01:19:59,510 --> 01:19:56,560
um a lot of his um intentions and it

2161
01:20:03,030 --> 01:19:59,520
didn't come from himself he was charming

2162
01:20:04,950 --> 01:20:03,040
and from another dimension anyway um and

2163
01:20:06,870 --> 01:20:04,960
that's how he come up with a lot of his

2164
01:20:09,030 --> 01:20:06,880
inventions i know a lot of his

2165
01:20:10,229 --> 01:20:09,040
inventions were stolen by the fbi after

2166
01:20:12,790 --> 01:20:10,239
he died

2167
01:20:14,149 --> 01:20:12,800
um and he had free energy and everything

2168
01:20:15,270 --> 01:20:14,159
else and he wanted to make the world a

2169
01:20:25,690 --> 01:20:15,280
better place

2170
01:20:25,700 --> 01:20:31,110
[Music]

2171
01:20:34,310 --> 01:20:32,790
they don't realize i'm put you know

2172
01:20:36,390 --> 01:20:34,320
enjoying that i'm quite crafty the way i

2173
01:20:38,070 --> 01:20:36,400
get my answers over them but they always

2174
01:20:54,229 --> 01:20:38,080
somebody in there will always be wanting

2175
01:20:58,629 --> 01:20:56,550
the magnetism and it just made me think

2176
01:21:25,830 --> 01:20:58,639
about the role as

2177
01:21:29,350 --> 01:21:27,750
but i know that was some sort of object

2178
01:21:31,750 --> 01:21:29,360
you know craft or something

2179
01:21:36,629 --> 01:21:31,760
literally collected

2180
01:21:43,030 --> 01:21:39,350
whatever and you saw like i've seen

2181
01:21:45,030 --> 01:21:43,040
green bright green um i would

2182
01:21:48,790 --> 01:21:45,040
say that's an aurora but it might not

2183
01:21:51,510 --> 01:21:48,800
always be because yeah i'm thinking yeah

2184
01:21:54,629 --> 01:21:53,189
you know you showed the photos later on

2185
01:21:56,310 --> 01:21:54,639
as far as you were concerned you was

2186
01:21:58,629 --> 01:21:56,320
actually actually looking at the chin

2187
01:22:00,310 --> 01:21:58,639
again and helicopter and when he took

2188
01:22:02,709 --> 01:22:00,320
the phone does he come up again

2189
01:22:05,030 --> 01:22:02,719
didn't see a chinook

2190
01:22:06,709 --> 01:22:05,040
like you everyone here we're living in

2191
01:22:08,470 --> 01:22:06,719
wales you hear him all the time like you

2192
01:22:10,470 --> 01:22:08,480
see him all the time you get to know

2193
01:22:13,510 --> 01:22:10,480
what a shin up sounds like right you

2194
01:22:13,520 --> 01:22:17,270
the things that he likes

2195
01:22:20,310 --> 01:22:18,470
you know

2196
01:22:21,510 --> 01:22:20,320
fake

2197
01:22:22,790 --> 01:22:21,520
fiction

2198
01:22:24,310 --> 01:22:22,800
so anyway

2199
01:22:25,750 --> 01:22:24,320
it wasn't a real helicopter that's why

2200
01:22:28,709 --> 01:22:25,760
i've been trying to get across

2201
01:22:32,149 --> 01:22:30,709
what i saw were two lights normally you

2202
01:22:33,510 --> 01:22:32,159
get with an aircraft there'll be

2203
01:22:35,510 --> 01:22:33,520
flashing lights

2204
01:22:36,870 --> 01:22:35,520
these were two steady steady lights of

2205
01:22:38,310 --> 01:22:36,880
red and white lights and then they're

2206
01:22:40,790 --> 01:22:38,320
not even the same lights that came out

2207
01:22:43,350 --> 01:22:40,800
on pictures yeah the different colors

2208
01:22:45,510 --> 01:22:43,360
but what i saw was a red and a white

2209
01:22:46,550 --> 01:22:45,520
light on an object that came in really

2210
01:22:47,830 --> 01:22:46,560
really good

2211
01:22:49,990 --> 01:22:47,840
from the garage

2212
01:23:01,990 --> 01:22:50,000
this area through this area from heart